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cynsir 10-09-2009 05:58 PM
Dog in Heat - How can you tell?
 
My Yorkie, Misty, will be 3 years old in November. She got pregnant once when she was only 16 months old and had only one pup. Now I have some folks who are wanting to know when Misty will have a litter. I don't have a problem with that since they want a pup from someone they know. My question, how can I tell when she's in heat? I have never seen any blood nor have I seen her act any differently.

JeanieK 10-09-2009 06:30 PM
Her vulva will be swollen. You really need to be aware of her heat cycles because males will come from miles around. So you need to watch her closely when she is in heat.

You should also be aware that along with breeding come risks and if she would require a C section, some high vet bills. You need to be prepared to pay that in case it is necessary.

Between the cost of the stud fee, and the vet bills, you could buy two nice puppies.

Just something to think about before you make the decision to breed her.

cynsir 10-10-2009 03:53 PM
Thanks for the info. I don't have any problem with other male dogs around here and when she goes out, she goes out with my English Cocker who won't let anyone in the yard. I haven't decided yet on breeding her yet. Misty's mom wants one of her babies and so do three of her daughters. I told them that if I do breed Misty since it will be solely for them, they would foot any and all vet bills.

But I'm still thinking.

kalina82 10-10-2009 04:06 PM
even if they actually do pay the vet bills that is a HUGE risk to put your yorkie thru just because someone wants a puppy from her. I would never do it to my pet yorkie. its absurd. why risk my baby's life so someone else can have a puppy?

jasminr 10-10-2009 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2833712)
even if they actually do pay the vet bills that is a HUGE risk to put your yorkie thru just because someone wants a puppy from her. I would never do it to my pet yorkie. its absurd. why risk my baby's life so someone else can have a puppy?
yea, I totally agree with you, I would never put jasmin thru this just to give somebody a puppy after she had her first and only litter I spayed as soon we could, I didn't have peace when she was pregnant thinking about something could go wrong, her pregnancy was an accident and I learned a lot from my stupidity, then again I'm not interested in breeding dogs and don't know much about it, just wanted to give you my opinion, good luck to you both in whatever you decide to do

megansmomma 10-10-2009 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cynsir (Post 2832853)
My Yorkie, Misty, will be 3 years old in November. She got pregnant once when she was only 16 months old and had only one pup. Now I have some folks who are wanting to know when Misty will have a litter. I don't have a problem with that since they want a pup from someone they know. My question, how can I tell when she's in heat? I have never seen any blood nor have I seen her act any differently.
Cindy, after all that you have been through, not being able to pay for his surgery in a timely manner for Max, losing Max during his surgery, and learning from this forum why would you even consider Misty having a ANOTHER litter of puppies? :confused: You have already used her once for to make puppies and she had Max. You are not a breeder and you are not financially stable. Why/how could you possibly consider this as an option? :confused: Seriously, if you want to give something away to your daughters how about baking cookies? You need to use the spay/neuter clinic on the Indian Reservation and get her spayed.

Nancy1999 10-10-2009 06:18 PM
Have you checked out puppy prices lately? They are really going down fast, and even breeders who have spent a fortune for special breeding dogs are limiting their litters because of the poor economy. While dog prices have gone down, vet prices continue to rise, and unless your financially solvent with a padded savings, I don't think I would risk it. You were really lucky with your first litter, and nothing went wrong, however, this doesn't mean it will happen again, and pregnancy does take a toll on mama, and especially her teeth. If I were you, I would do some research on the matter, there are so many different things to be aware of when you are breeding domesticated animals, it's not the same as if they were in the wild, once man steps in, man is often needed to continue to step-in to insure a healthy litter. The link has some good information. Breeding Your Dog

BanditSocks2 10-10-2009 06:46 PM
Aside from the swelling are there other obvious symptoms? I've heard bleeding can be very limited and almost un-noticeable. I'm just wondering because Nala is an indoor dog unless shes being watched in our fenced in back yard or on her leash on a walk. Would dogs still be trying to get to her? I'm curious because I'm planning on going to the dog park tomorrow, and she's getting spayed Wednesday, but shes almost 6 1/2 months and I want to be safe!

cynsir 10-10-2009 09:49 PM
Here's what it is. Misty's mommy and daddy, Brandy and Spitfire were neutered and spayed shortly after Misty was born. In fact I was the one that had the dogs when Brandy gave birth, it was just amazing. Now Ginger, Brandy and Spitty's human mom has mentioned that when Misty has her litter, she will take all of them, three for her girls and one for herself. I told Ginger that I would think about it. I am leaning toward NOT letting her have a litter because she's so small. She's smaller that her mommy was. And when she did have a litter when she was so young, it was only one puppy and that was Max. So please don't think I'm rushing into this.

Another question can a do ge in heat when she's spayed or does it not make any difference?

kalina82 10-11-2009 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cynsir (Post 2834028)
Here's what it is. Misty's mommy and daddy, Brandy and Spitfire were neutered and spayed shortly after Misty was born. In fact I was the one that had the dogs when Brandy gave birth, it was just amazing. Now Ginger, Brandy and Spitty's human mom has mentioned that when Misty has her litter, she will take all of them, three for her girls and one for herself. I told Ginger that I would think about it. I am leaning toward NOT letting her have a litter because she's so small. She's smaller that her mommy was. And when she did have a litter when she was so young, it was only one puppy and that was Max. So please don't think I'm rushing into this.

Another question can a do ge in heat when she's spayed or does it not make any difference?
how small is Misty?

Nancy1999 10-11-2009 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cynsir (Post 2834028)
Here's what it is. Misty's mommy and daddy, Brandy and Spitfire were neutered and spayed shortly after Misty was born. In fact I was the one that had the dogs when Brandy gave birth, it was just amazing. Now Ginger, Brandy and Spitty's human mom has mentioned that when Misty has her litter, she will take all of them, three for her girls and one for herself. I told Ginger that I would think about it. I am leaning toward NOT letting her have a litter because she's so small. She's smaller that her mommy was. And when she did have a litter when she was so young, it was only one puppy and that was Max. So please don't think I'm rushing into this.

Another question can a do ge in heat when she's spayed or does it not make any difference?
I think Ginger is taking advantage of your friendship, I'm glad that you are thinking about this, and your little girl should be your first consideration. What if your baby needs an emergency cesarean, and what if the puppies all die, you think she would reimburse you? I can tell you that people can be very unpredictable when it comes to money, and what they think is fair. If Ginger is a true friend she will try and understand why you don't want to take this chance. I've never had a little girl, but I think once they spay them they take out the uterus and ovaries and that means no more periods, so this would mean no more heat, and no chance of uterine or ovarian cancer in the future.

cynsir 10-11-2009 09:38 AM
Misty weighs about 5 pounds. When Max was born he was really tiny and was only 1 lb 9 oz at 14 months. I think that is too small. Can you imagine 3 or 4 tiny tiny yorkies? That just makes me shudder.

megansmomma 10-11-2009 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cynsir (Post 2834470)
Misty weighs about 5 pounds. When Max was born he was really tiny and was only 1 lb 9 oz at 14 months. I think that is too small. Can you imagine 3 or 4 tiny tiny yorkies? That just makes me shudder.
If Max was that tiny doesn't it make you wonder if there was something "wrong" with him when he passed during his surgery? I would be very worried that any puppies that Misty would have might also have what took Max's life. His adult weight alone makes me think that he might have had some type of underlying issues with his health possibly hereditary that you are not aware that Misty could be a carrier of and passed on to Max. :(

Nancy1999 10-11-2009 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2834494)
If Max was that tiny doesn't it make you wonder if there was something "wrong" with him when he passed during his surgery? I would be very worried that any puppies that Misty would have might also have what took Max's life. His adult weight alone makes me think that he might have had some type of underlying issues with his health possibly hereditary that you are not aware that Misty could be a carrier of and passed on to Max. :(
I was thinking this too, that such an unusually small weight even for a tiny.

manolos mom 10-11-2009 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2834509)
I was thinking this too, that such an unusually small weight even for a tiny.
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