Breeder discussion on routine deworming
 

Many of you might not want to disclose your deworming schedules, but I'd like some input on this.

If we routinely worm our puppies at 5 weeks old, isn't it still possible for them to have been reinfested by the time we sell them at 10+ weeks.

Do you think that by routine deworming, when there is no indication of worms, that we could be causing parasites, including giardia and coccidia to become more resistant?

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Interesting thread....I cant wait to see replies on this.

i start deworming at five, sometimes six weekss and worm every ten days until they leave or twelve weeks. I have only had coccidia once so don't know how this affects that. I have neer had Giardia.

So then for how many days in a row do you worm them each time, and which product do you use.

Will one product get rid of both coccidia and giardia? Form what I have read you need two different products.

I worm my pups at 4-5 weeks and then every 2 weeks after until they leave for their new homes. I use a pyrantel pamoate product like Nemex. For Giardia you would use something like safe guard (goat wormer) and give for 3 days in a row. Coccidia you'd use Albon. I don't think there is 1 product that you can give that will take care of both coccidia and giardia?

You are correct. And I might add, neither is prevented by worm medicine. I also use nemex2. I only give it once then 10 days later again as i mentioned above.

I usually use some mild de-wormer like "Pyrantel" around 4 to 5 weeks, when i start weaning the pups. Then prior sending them home i give Panacur-c for 5 or 6 days. It is very mild and harmless, will get rid of all worms except one type of tape worms and Gyardia. even preggo moms can get panacur safely.
But one can never be 100% sure about worms, there are just so many factors to account in.
Also i do this schedule in agreement with every vet i ever had. Meaning i have consulted and gotten the aproval and recommendation to do so. but again, no vet will say that it guarantees that the puppies will not have worms when you send them home.
Coccidia can be passed by other animals feces... like birds. We removed our bird feeders after we learned that. But reptiles carry it, and i do not know what else. Just as my vet said, you can only do so much in prevention, do your best and know that you did your best.
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I view this in 2 different ways. As strictly a pet owner, I only worm if it's an issue. My pets have a fecal done at their yearly exam. If we need to worm then we do.

As a breeder, I believe that prevention is key. We have to send our puppies to their new homes with every ounce of protection that we can offer. I use Marquis for coccidia treatment and prevention. Puppies are given Marquis at 2weeks and 4 weeks old. Mom is given a dose 2 weeks prior to delivery and also at the 2 and 4 week mark with the puppies. Marquis is a horse wormer that my vet gives me and has given me the proper dosage for dogs. Puppies are then given a dose of Ivomec to cover stomach parasies and heart wormes at 12 weeks. My adults are given the Ivomec once a month.

Our Routine
 

I posted this like two hours ago.... I'm not sure where it went???:p

I really don't believe routine wormers have any effect on coccidia or giardia.... Although, I do think one needs to consider resistance of roundworms / hookworms and such with regard to always using the same type of wormer. We mix it up at times....A&M released a study some years back that something like 80% of all dogs have had or are carriers of coccidia with little or no symptoms... As far as giardia, it is a water borne parasite and requires a snap test as opposed to just a routine fecal... Basically, no routine will be perfect... Over the years, we've changed this or that depending on the latest study or med... It can be overwhelming, frustrating, and a real guessing game at times...

So, basically our routine is as follows:

Regular wormer (Fenbendazole): 6 weeks and every two weeks after...Fenbendazole (panacur) is very broad spectrum including giardia.

Routine fecal (conglomerate) at 6 and 12 wks to check specifically for coccidia.

Coccidia:
Marquis to prevent at day 4 then week 2,4,6,8,10,14 (very expensive)
If you have an outbreak, ponazuril will kill the parasite in just a 3 doses or Albon, but must be given for 28 days (the lifecycle) 10 on, 8 off, 10 on.

Giardia:
Water borne parasite, will not be present in normal fecal, must have a snap test done. However, if one dog picks it up, it will spread very quickly via fecal matter to every dog you have and possibly humans or birds. Panacur is an effective treatment (5 days)

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