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smartpuppiepets 07-31-2009 03:14 PM

IS AKC registering Yorkie/silky crosses???
 
This is part of the ad i found on another site... i would not post the information as i do not want to cause a problem to anyone... but i was just curious if anyone else heard of this...

I also read someone calling these "Silkshire Terriers" ?????? :D

I did not take my time to research on the matter but i know there is registry for mixed breeds... but it is a diferent thing...

Here is part of the ad i found.:

Scooter is an adorable little boy. He is a Silky
Terrier/Yorkshire Terrier cross which is now be
recognized by AKC as it's newest breed. In
addition I have 4 Yorkshire Terrier/Silky Terrier
pups available $650 to $850....2 females and 2
males. I also have 5 AKC registered Silky Terrier
pups priced from $575 to $950....2 females and 3
males. Pups will weigh 2.5 to 4.9 lbs at
maturity. The puppy pictures is a male
Yorkie/Silky Terrier cross.....he is 8 weeks of
age and weighs 1 lb. 5 oz. He will be small
at maturity. AKC is recognizing the Yorkshire
terrier/Silky Terrier cross for registry. Full
two year health guarantee. Will deliver up to 150
miles. Please call or e-mail additional pictures

kalina82 07-31-2009 03:31 PM

I googled silky terrier/yorkshire terrier cross and just came up with a bunch of ads just like the one you posted. This one person is just trying to sell puppies to make a buck.

AKC is not registering this cross as a new breed. its just a load of crap.

xxmxaxrxyxx 07-31-2009 03:37 PM

AKC now offers registration of mix dogs which will begin in Oct...here is a link to more of the info..

American Kennel Club - AKC Announces New Program for Mixed Breeds

xxmxaxrxyxx 07-31-2009 03:38 PM

but as far as registering it as new breed that is something i do not think AKC is doing...

Nancy1999 07-31-2009 03:41 PM

Wow, usually people are sneakier in their lying, this is such an outrageous lie, I wonder if the breeder herself has been mislead? I've heard that in Arizona, many people who are buying what they think are Yorkies are really buying Silkies, they look a lot alike, but there are some differences that an educated buyer should be aware of. I'm sure many many breeders, just breed whatever they have.

Nancy1999 07-31-2009 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 2733738)
AKC now offers registration of mix dogs which will begin in Oct...here is a link to more of the info..

American Kennel Club - AKC Announces New Program for Mixed Breeds

The new program is only for events such as agility, it is not for confirmation or breeding. Many dog owners who owned purebreds as well as non-registered dogs wanted all their dogs to be able to participate in some of the other programs. A dog must be neutered, to enter, so you see unscrupulous breeders will not be able to register their puppies, and sell them as AKC registered.


Quote:

Will AKC be registering hybrid dogs through the Mixed Breed program?
Mixed breeds will not be “registered.” Only purebred dogs that originate from an AKC-registered sire and AKC-registered dam may be registered.
The Mixed Breed Program allows owners of mixed breed dogs, including hybrids, to list their dogs. The listing comes with several privileges, including the ability to participate in mixed breed classes held at standalone AKC Agility, Obedience, and Rally Events. Unlike registered dogs, AKC will not record parentage or any other lineage for mixed breed dogs.
All dogs listed through this program will be designated as a mixed breed. There will be no separate or special classification for hybrid/designer breeds. All dogs will have the same “mixed breed https://www.akc.org/pdfs/AKC_MB_Program_FAQ.pdf

Mardelin 07-31-2009 04:02 PM

Here's the article as it appears on the AKC website
AKC Announces New Program for Mixed Breeds
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[Tuesday, April 14, 2009]
New York, NY – For the past 125 years, the American Kennel Club® has been the nation's premier advocate for dogs and the people who love them. The AKC's Board of Directors has voted unanimously to proceed with a program for mixed breed dogs which will allow it to act even more broadly and effectively as the dog's champion. The creation of this program ushers in new opportunities for AKC's constituents and clubs and will allow the organization to grow and flourish.

"Our goal in creating a program specifically designed for mixed breeds is to share our passion for dogs and our sport," said AKC President and CEO Dennis Sprung. "AKC will broaden its legislative influence by representing more dog owners and achieve greater exposure for our responsible dog ownership messaging. But ultimately, the positive developments that this program creates will benefit dogs the most, and this is what we value above all."

The mixed breeds program will be implemented in three phases. As of October 1, 2009 owners can begin enrolling their pets and receive an AKC ID number. Then beginning April 1, 2010 enrolled dogs will be eligible to compete in mixed breed classes at stand-alone AKC Agility, Obedience and Rally events. Soon after they will have access to benefits such as discounted AKC Companion Animal Recovery Lost and Found service, a free AKC Canine Good Citizen® certificate for dogs passing the CGC test, a free initial veterinary visit, a trial offer of pet health insurance and discounted coupons for dog supplies.

The third phase will offer a dedicated Web site where dog owners can interact via an online community with discussion forums and access dog care video downloads, advice from experts and the most up-to-date news on canine health and welfare. The site will be continually enhanced with new features and benefits in order to respond to the changing needs of pet owners.

This new AKC initiative is the first designed to specifically benefit mixed breed dogs and their dog owners, however the AKC has long included mixed breeds in programs such as AKC Canine Good Citizen®, AKC S.T.A.R. Puppysm, AKC Responsible Dog Ownership Day and the AKC CAR Canine Support and Relief Fund's disaster relief efforts. In addition, AKC has always actively advocated for the rights of all dog owners and the welfare of dogs through its Government Relations efforts and serves dog owners through its affiliate organizations such as the AKC Humane Fund, AKC Canine Health Foundation and AKC Companion Animal Recovery.

For more information about the AKC's mixed breeds program, visit www.akc.org/mixedbreeds.

tammys 07-31-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2733744)
Wow, usually people are sneakier in their lying, this is such an outrageous lie, I wonder if the breeder herself has been mislead? I've heard that in Arizona, many people who are buying what they think are Yorkies are really buying Silkies, they look a lot alike, but there are some differences that an educated buyer should be aware of. I'm sure many many breeders, just breed whatever they have.


Man, you're not kidding. I have what I believe is a Silky, but she was sold to me as a Yorkie. I couldn't care less, but was surprised when I figured it out.:confused:

smartpuppiepets 07-31-2009 08:37 PM

Want to "quote" everyone who posted already ... but it is silly...

I was not surprised when i saw the ad, but it seems to be sneaky to try to pass a cross puppy as AKC registered... without explaining ...

I Just read all the posts and AKC... i was just leaving for a meeting when i posted on the last minute...

Thanks so much for all the answers... I should have done some of the work you guys did... ;)

But discussing the subject also brings awareness ...

Thanks a lot everyone !!!

ChantalB 08-01-2009 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 2733738)
AKC now offers registration of mix dogs which will begin in Oct...here is a link to more of the info..

American Kennel Club - AKC Announces New Program for Mixed Breeds

Very interesting. I am starting a thread right now to get others opinion on the subject!

topknot 08-01-2009 05:41 AM

Yes, I am aware of this by AKC. We have discussed this at my all-breed club meetings. I think some people here are missing some of the information here.

I believe that do be registered as a mixed breed the dog must be spayed/neuterd first. So not sure how this person would be able to register pups until they are old enough to be spayed/neuterd.

The mixed breeds will be able to participate in agility, obiediance, and rally only. Not confirmation!

It is to help AKC with more income by registering more dogs and to bring awareness to pet owners about health, Good Citizenship, and some of the options that will be available to them to participate in AKC show events (Agility, Obediance, and Rally only). At shows there are also siminars, workshops another benefit.

When we show, it is a family affair - great way to spend good quality family time. :thumbup:

smartpuppiepets 08-01-2009 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChantalB (Post 2734389)
Very interesting. I am starting a thread right now to get others opinion on the subject!

Great !!! The more it is out there ... maybe the less we will see these ads...

Lets see what everyone will think of it !

XOXO :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BamaFan121s 08-04-2009 10:06 AM

AKC is not registering them as a recognized breed, but will register them so that they can compete in non-conformation events (agility). This person is doing with AKC the same thing that has been done with several other registries for sometime now--claiming that a dog is registered when in fact, all that's being done is the dog is being recognized as a combo of two recognized breeds, not a breed of it's own. :rolleyes: (Same song and dance but with a different spin because this time it's the highly esteemed AKC doing it....so it must be different, right?)

Sadly, there will likely be suckers who failed to do their research first who believe it.

Nancy1999 08-04-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2739530)
AKC is not registering them as a recognized breed, but will register them so that they can compete in non-conformation events (agility). This person is doing with AKC the same thing that has been done with several other registries for sometime now--claiming that a dog is registered when in fact, all that's being done is the dog is being recognized as a combo of two recognized breeds, not a breed of it's own. :rolleyes: (Same song and dance but with a different spin because this time it's the highly esteemed AKC doing it....so it must be different, right?)

Sadly, there will likely be suckers who failed to do their research first who believe it.

If you read the details, they are in no way "registered," they are said to be on a "list", this is not the same as registration, and no parentage is given. You can say that they are listed with the AKC as a "mixed breed", but that's all you can say, you can't say they are a cross between this and that, all the dogs on the "list" will be labeled as mixed breeds, not yorkiepoo or whatever. The important part is that breeders cannot use this to sell puppies, as the dogs have to be spayed or neutered to be on the list. All a breeder could say to a dog buyer is that the AKC listed the dog as a mixed breed, and that is if the dog is spayed or neutered because the AKC won't list them until proof of this is shown. I think the AKC has done everything they can so that breeders of designer dogs won't use this list, and still allow dog owners of mixed breeds and rescues to be able to participate in all the other events, besides conformation. Most dog owners are not breeders and would still like to participate in the AKC, so think of this list as a benefit to the dog owner, not the breeder. Obviously, there would be no reason to be on the list, if you didn't want to participate in the other events, but many people thought it was unfair that some of their dogs could participate in agility, but others they owned could not. I'm really not sure why anyone could criticize the program, it seems well thought out, and fair to all. If a breeder says a dog is registered with the AKC, a puppy buyer should always check that out, and not confuse the word "listed" with "registered, even in this thread many times people have said they will be registered with the AKC, and they should have said "listed."


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