Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2693978)

Mary, I have neer bred like that either. ALL my girls were in heat at the same time and I bred these two. I haven't had puppies for over a year. yes, it is rough. I have been up several days and nights already and now have a few more sleepless nights to look forward to. i am going to have to supplement to keep her from going down again. I am on the way to the vet to pick her up now. C-section, five babies. As to how I handle it, yes there are times you want to go nuts even with my other little dogs. i only have six dogs and it is a 24/7 job caring for them. But they are my babies. i am retired so my life almost revolves around them after family of course.

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2693314)

Thanks everyone. We are home from the vet. he gave me another calcuim shot to bring home and a bottle of PetCal tabs. She was scared at the vet and we thought she would be beter athome. Still cannot stand on her legs but other sympthoms are gone. He said the babies seemed fine and there should be no reason she can't free whelp. But this has sure got me to rethinking. I have alwways given a little calcuim in foood beofre whelp and had only recently stopped after reading research that said not to. Ruth from Ms. Chif Yorkies has been on the phone with me several times already and she saidd we ALL need to rethink this new research. As for me, I am going back to what works for me and yes, Mary we will be looking at a few things after we have the babies. Thanks everyone. Oh BTw, Bama, althou the tums is not the best in a situation like this, it saved my girls life until I could get to the vet.. Again, thanks everyone. I appreciate your prayers and concern.

Originally Posted by luckylady (Post 2694018)

Oh my goodness Dee............what a time you and your girls have had! I am so sorry about the loss of the singleton out of your champion girl; did I understand correctly in reading..........the pup was just 1...something ounces??? Regardless though, I know you must be so disappointed and I send big hugs to you.
And then to top that off along comes the trouble with eclampsia and the c-section with your other girl. I AM glad to hear that she came out of it okay and did deliver 5 babies. Congratulations on their arrival. I will say some prayers that they all thrive and that mom continues to improve for you.......and also prayers for you to get through it all without wearing yourself down to much.

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2694074)

Rose, thanks for the prayers. we are a long way from being out of the woods. I have to supplement every hour tonight and I am sure I am losing one little girl. mama is still not right either. if i didn't have the computer, I really would go nuts. good thing this is the only litter I will have this year.

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2693795)

This is what I posted. My girls are fed cottage cheese with their morning meal prior to breeding. But, never a calcium supplement plus an hour a day in the sunshine natural vitamin D.

Okay to hold it at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it.

Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.