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shelfy 04-15-2009 08:40 PM
Yorkie puppy born a blue/chocolate color
 
Hello, I am new to this site but am blessed to have found it. I am hoping someone will be able to help me with something I heard about newborn yorkie pups. I have a 4 lb female that was bred to a 3 1/2 lb male. She delivered one puppy 3 days ago. The puppy seems to be doing well, gaining weight, strong and active. This puppy is a blue/chocolate color and I have never seen this before so I started trying to find some info on it. One site said that a "blue born pup" will only survive for a few days and if it does live, that it will eventually loose all of its hair and get leathery skin that is very painful to the dog. They recommended that I have the pup euthanized. This is very disturbing to me and I want to find out all that I can before even considering doing this. Any info or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michelle

katelin 04-15-2009 08:46 PM
Can you post a picture of the puppy and its parents? I have also heard of this problem with blue puppies, but you would want to be sure that is what you have. Have you had it checked by a vet?

ChantalB 04-15-2009 08:55 PM
I do not have any advice to give you, but i would really like to see a picture your little one.

Yorkie_Mama 04-15-2009 09:10 PM
I have never heard of this but How Scary for you !! there are some seasoned Yorkie breeders on here with a wealth of info !! I hope your puppie turns out healthy!

chachi 04-16-2009 12:36 AM
Search on here for blue borns there have been alot of threads about it. Not all blue borns have health problems but alot of them have hair loss. I wouldnt euthanize the pup. There just isnt enough know about this condition

chachi 04-16-2009 01:39 AM
By the way I have never seen any actual research done regarding this condition. I have seen opinions where they say you should euthanize the pup but I would never do that based on opinions alone.

Jacqulyn 04-16-2009 03:25 AM
blue born pup
 
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I have just gone through the same as you. We had a litter that had one blue pup. I myself didn't know what was going on. I contacted AKC and they requested a photo. She told me that the pup was a Chocolate. Then, the following litter we had had two girls the same way. I came on here found out some information and now know that I have blue pups. My Dam on the second litter is a blue, but never showed any signs till the end of her pregnancy, she lost her hair in the saddle area. She is three and had a beautiful coat. She has never had any health problems and we just thought that she was a silvery/blue and tan. She is fixed now and will not be producing any more litters, the sire to the other litter was her brother and he is a gene carrier, he too is fixed now. From our experience, please don't consider euthanzing the little one. Our girl even with no hair is not in pain and very healthy. Our vet recommended limited sun time to keep her from getting burned, and to use moisturizing shampoo and even vitamin E on her back. Here are some pictures of our blue babies.
And a couple of links that I found helpful in understanding the blue born
IGCA : CDA

http://www.dobequest.org/genotype.php

colour dilution alopecia

katelin 04-16-2009 06:20 AM
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

I agree about not euthanizing the puppy. These are good sites as well.

BamaFan121s 04-16-2009 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacqulyn (Post 2579888)
I have just gone through the same as you. We had a litter that had one blue pup. I myself didn't know what was going on. I contacted AKC and they requested a photo. She told me that the pup was a Chocolate. Then, the following litter we had had two girls the same way. My Dam on the second litter is a blue, but never showed any signs till the end of her pregnancy, she lost her hair in the saddle area.
Was it a different dam for each litter, or the same one? :confused: Was the sire for the first litter the littermate to the dam of the second litter?

my4pups 04-16-2009 07:08 AM
wow very interesting, I've never heard of this. I hope there are some more comments about this. I'm going to search other threads too.

Jacqulyn 04-16-2009 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2580052)
Was it a different dam for each litter, or the same one? :confused: Was the sire for the first litter the littermate to the dam of the second litter?
Two different Dams. The Sire to the 1st litter is the brother of our Blue girl. And our Blue girl is the Dam to the 2nd litter. By the time we found out about Blue pups she was already due in a couple days.

BamaFan121s 04-16-2009 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacqulyn (Post 2580293)
Two different Dams. The Sire to the 1st litter is the brother of our Blue girl. And our Blue girl is the Dam to the 2nd litter. By the time we found out about Blue pups she was already due in a couple days.
Ah, OK...that makes sense. That was what I was thinking, but I got myself all confused reading it.:rolleyes:

ChantalB 04-16-2009 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacqulyn (Post 2580293)
Two different Dams. The Sire to the 1st litter is the brother of our Blue girl. And our Blue girl is the Dam to the 2nd litter. By the time we found out about Blue pups she was already due in a couple days.
:eek:

Ok Ya it does make sense NOW!! After I read it 3 times!!


:lol tears

I guess I am a little slow today. ;)

FlDebra 04-17-2009 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacqulyn (Post 2579888)
I have just gone through the same as you. We had a litter that had one blue pup. I myself didn't know what was going on. I contacted AKC and they requested a photo. She told me that the pup was a Chocolate. Then, the following litter we had had two girls the same way. I came on here found out some information and now know that I have blue pups. My Dam on the second litter is a blue, but never showed any signs till the end of her pregnancy, she lost her hair in the saddle area. She is three and had a beautiful coat. She has never had any health problems and we just thought that she was a silvery/blue and tan. She is fixed now and will not be producing any more litters, the sire to the other litter was her brother and he is a gene carrier, he too is fixed now. From our experience, please don't consider euthanzing the little one. Our girl even with no hair is not in pain and very healthy. Our vet recommended limited sun time to keep her from getting burned, and to use moisturizing shampoo and even vitamin E on her back. Here are some pictures of our blue babies.
And a couple of links that I found helpful in understanding the blue born
IGCA : CDA

http://www.dobequest.org/genotype.php

colour dilution alopecia
I know it is very difficult to tell anything from pictures and that is all I have ever had to go on but your pups sure look more chocolate than blue. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Here is a link to a picture of a blue born -- more of a silvery bluish gray.... and a chocolate, brownish grayishGoogle Image Result for http://goldenrayyorkies.com/ColorBlueBornPupCheck.jpg She also explains some of the genetics.

Jacqulyn 04-17-2009 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2583084)
I know it is very difficult to tell anything from pictures and that is all I have ever had to go on but your pups sure look more chocolate than blue. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Here is a link to a picture of a blue born -- more of a silvery bluish gray.... and a chocolate, brownish grayishGoogle Image Result for http://goldenrayyorkies.com/ColorBlueBornPupCheck.jpg She also explains some of the genetics.
It is difficult to see in the pictures. The babies were born silver, Saedee the smallest girl has more of a rust than tan color on her face. They both have dark grey noses and eyelids with hazel colored eyes. This picture is a little better


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