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nacke 03-28-2009 06:02 PM
Biewer Registries...
 
Ive seen some talk here and there about this. So im curious, what are all the US registries for Biewers? After googling it i found so many! Which ones are legit, ect? I want to have my boy registered here...

And as i see in his pedigree, there are MANY purebred yorkies in his line. Is this normal? (Im assuming because AKC usually has TR in the reg # and thats what i see...)

my2boyz 03-28-2009 06:08 PM
If you are importing your Biewer from Germany then yes, it is common to see Yorkies in the lines as many German breeders still believe in breeding back to the Yorkie. There are many good Biewer breeders here in the U.S. now so importing isn't as neccessary as it used to be.

There are several U.S. registries available...the BNR, BYA and the BBCA are a few that come to mind but there are others too...I just don't know all the initials!

nacke 03-28-2009 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2548466)
If you are importing your Biewer from Germany then yes, it is common to see Yorkies in the lines as many German breeders still believe in breeding back to the Yorkie. There are many good Biewer breeders here in the U.S. now so importing isn't as neccessary as it used to be.

There are several U.S. registries available...the BNR, BYA and the BBCA are a few that come to mind but there are others too...I just don't know all the initials!
Mine was not from Germany, he was bred here, and his parents are both biewer. but in his line there are yorkies. So is it possible to register him here?

Sorry if i sound ignorant. Im trying to figure out all the registry stuff. Way different than akc, lol!

AprilLove 03-28-2009 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2548466)
If you are importing your Biewer from Germany then yes, it is common to see Yorkies in the lines as many German breeders still believe in breeding back to the Yorkie. There are many good Biewer breeders here in the U.S. now so importing isn't as neccessary as it used to be.

There are several U.S. registries available...the BNR, BYA and the BBCA are a few that come to mind but there are others too...I just don't know all the initials!

Just wanted to note that BBCA is a Biewer Club, the BBIR is the registry :)

my2boyz 03-28-2009 06:26 PM
How are the parents registered? Was the litter registered?

my2boyz 03-28-2009 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 2548500)
Just wanted to note that BBCA is a Biewer Club, the BBIR is the registry :)
See...too many initials to remember...I knew I'd cross them up someday!

Breezeaway 03-28-2009 06:40 PM
Just wondering if a Biewer can be registered as a yorkie with akc and as a biewer with the biewer registry, since some have alot of akc yorkie in the background.

scrapindee 03-28-2009 08:25 PM
Biewers cannot be registered as Yorkies in the U.S. They are not tri-color Yorkies or Parti-Yorkies. Biewers can be registered here in the U.S. with any of the Biewer registeries or back in Germany.

kpstoybox 03-28-2009 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2548525)
Just wondering if a Biewer can be registered as a yorkie with akc and as a biewer with the biewer registry, since some have alot of akc yorkie in the background.

If someone breeds an AKC yorkie with a Biewer...the puppies cannot be registered with the AKC. The AKC would consider this nothing more then a mixed breed.

However, these same pups can be registered as a yorkie or a Biewer (depending on color) with many of the German registries such as the IBC.
Hypothetically...you could breed your AKC parti male to a Biewer female. All the resulting pups would be tri colored. So the IBC would register them all as Biewers. If you breed a Biewer to a tradional AKC yorkie...all the pups would be splitters (tradional colored yorkies who carry the piebald gene) and the resulting pups would be registered with the IBC as Yorkies.

Hope this helps. :)

nacke 03-29-2009 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2548501)
How are the parents registered? Was the litter registered?
Both of his parents are IBC in germany. He is IBC as well, i was just curious if he could be registered here.

livingdustmops 03-29-2009 05:53 AM
Are you planning to breed your little guy? How was he sold to you?

Who is your breeder and how do they register their dogs?

nacke 03-29-2009 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2548976)
Are you planning to breed your little guy? How was he sold to you?

Who is your breeder and how do they register their dogs?
We are possibly planning on breeding him. I want to give him another year (he is 6 months now) to see how his coat turns out, and his general appearance. We just got him home not long ago, and i have him shaved down at the moment. As of now, he is an excellent dog, but we still have much to work on before any possibility of babies!

I have been given full registration of him.

His breeder uses IBC.

We arent overly concerned with breeding at this point. He is still a baby! I was just curious on the other registries here :)

Breezeaway 03-29-2009 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2548716)
If someone breeds an AKC yorkie with a Biewer...the puppies cannot be registered with the AKC. The AKC would consider this nothing more then a mixed breed.

However, these same pups can be registered as a yorkie or a Biewer (depending on color) with many of the German registries such as the IBC.
Hypothetically...you could breed your AKC parti male to a Biewer female. All the resulting pups would be tri colored. So the IBC would register them all as Biewers. If you breed a Biewer to a tradional AKC yorkie...all the pups would be splitters (tradional colored yorkies who carry the piebald gene) and the resulting pups would be registered with the IBC as Yorkies.

Hope this helps. :)
Very Interesting. I did not know this.

Lorraine 03-29-2009 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2548716)
If someone breeds an AKC yorkie with a Biewer...the puppies cannot be registered with the AKC. The AKC would consider this nothing more then a mixed breed.

However, these same pups can be registered as a yorkie or a Biewer (depending on color) with many of the German registries such as the IBC.
Hypothetically...you could breed your AKC parti male to a Biewer female. All the resulting pups would be tri colored. So the IBC would register them all as Biewers. If you breed a Biewer to a tradional AKC yorkie...all the pups would be splitters (tradional colored yorkies who carry the piebald gene) and the resulting pups would be registered with the IBC as Yorkies.

Hope this helps. :)
But they cannot be registered with FCI or the German Kennel CLub in Germany as they are not recognized as a purebred by these registries.

livingdustmops 03-29-2009 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nacke (Post 2549023)
We are possibly planning on breeding him. I want to give him another year (he is 6 months now) to see how his coat turns out, and his general appearance. We just got him home not long ago, and i have him shaved down at the moment. As of now, he is an excellent dog, but we still have much to work on before any possibility of babies!

I have been given full registration of him.

His breeder uses IBC.

We arent overly concerned with breeding at this point. He is still a baby! I was just curious on the other registries here :)
Since this is a new breed/variance it is very important that you do your homework on your little one. These dogs do not have that much history and there has been a great deal of inbreeding going on so it is extremely important you study pedigree's. At this stage of the game it is not just about how your dog looks at maturity but watching for health concerns and confirmation. A large majority of the Biewers in the USA are IBC registeried but the 3 main clubs have started their own registries so the American Biewers can be followed here in the US. AKC recommends this approach.

My recommendation to you would be to join a Biewer forum/group, study pedigree's, study health concerns with the Biewers and get into the show ring before you even consider breeding your boy.

These are beautiful and exciting dogs but it is just the beginning of these dogs and you cannot make the same decisions you would a Yorkie if you are going to be a reputable breeder. Have fun and enjoy all the wonderful learning you are going to have to do with your beautiful Biewer.


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