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BamaFan121s 02-13-2009 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2466638)
Potential Yorkie owners who are have done their research beforehand look for a breeder who has an established reputation and is breeding to the standard. Since this is your first litter, you haven't built a reputation and unless the white spot on her chest is less than inch, your female is not within the Yorkie standard.

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

The preference does seem to be for smaller Yorkies and yours will probably be on the high end of the standard if they are three pounds at 13 weeks.

You may end up keeping all of them. :)
Agreed! :thumbup: And the point that many are ultra selective about aquiring a quality representation of the breed, to me, is a very POSTIVE thing.

Not to mention that due to the popularity of the breed, there is an abunance of Yorkies for sale these days.

This is where having interested parties and a waiting list BEFORE breeding comes in handy.

luvfla 02-13-2009 08:47 AM
Where is Hastings? Canada?

BamaFan121s 02-13-2009 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2467577)
They do have floppy ears still but that can be corrected...
That may in fact be the case, but you will be hard pressed to convince a prospective owner to gamble with their money that way. Someone who is stringently looking for a dog that meets the standard will not likely be willing to take the chance. Also, as you mentioned, you don't know how big they will be as adults and will not guarantee that, which is understandabe, but not convincing to would-be owners if they have the option of working with a more experienced breeder who would have a better indication of how their pups will develop.
You do have several factors working against you.:(

tiggerr36792 02-13-2009 08:59 AM
The economy is bad right now and the market is flooded with people breeding pet quality or poorly breed Yorkies. When so many people (puppymills, etc)breed pet quality yorkies and sell them at low costs which doesn't even cover expenses for reputable breeders it does change the selling market all over. Puppymills make their money from mass producing a bunch of puppies rather then selling one good quality healthy puppy. It's these low prices from mass producing that just makes the market bad. Since you are new to breeding you may need to advertise them elsewhere to establish yourself.

Your right about people wanting tinies these days. I personally am appaulled at how many calls I receive from people wanting hamster sized yorkies. I breed to the standard size and occassionally I do get one thats tiny, but I keep them longer and make sure I place them in proper homes. The fact that your breeding to standard is a good start IMO. Keep your chin up and make sure you find those babies the best homes you can...Good luck!

normsmommy 02-13-2009 09:29 AM
I am not so picky! I have been looking for a little girl. Are you in Hastings, Ne? Could you send me pics? I have a little boy Norm we lost his sister(Saint Bernard) in Sept. He is lonely and he is the only puppies his mom ever had. We got him from my mother in law who has since passed and we love him very much. Please get back to me, I cant wait to see them. I will see where you live, I am kind of worried about shipping pets. Maybe your close enough to drive.

hartygirl 02-13-2009 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by luvfla (Post 2468599)
Where is Hastings? Canada?
I was thinking Hastings Minnesota? IDK!

jexxie 02-13-2009 02:04 PM
I'm in hastings nebraska and I have posted pics of them in the gen. discussion forum. Any my opinion is, anyone that guarantees their dogs size is taking on something that I don't want to.. There is no way, ever, to know how big a pup will be when it gets to adulthood. You can guess... and go by parents sizes, but I would never guarantee something that isn't a for sure thing.. And as far as their ears, I know people want dogs that are "breed standard" but there are alot who don't care.. I don't care either way.. I don't show my dogs and never have any intention on doing so and that's all that's good for. I didn't shave their ears when they were pups because I didn't know you were supposed to. However, I did shave the ones I was going to keep and their ears were up in two days.. So, I guess I will just wait until someone comes along that loves them for who they are and not what their ears look like. ( didn't shave others ears because didn't want them to go to new homes looking silly)

chachi 02-13-2009 02:19 PM
I think you will sell your puppies and I dont think they are gonna be too big. You double the weight at 12 weeks that would make them 6lbs. Thats not big My girl is that weight and I like that weight. Just be patient some good buyers will come around

Ladymom 02-13-2009 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2469166)
There is no way, ever, to know how big a pup will be when it gets to adulthood.
That's not true. Reputable breeders know their lines and carefully breed to produce puppies as close to the standard as possible. A reputable breeder can predict pretty accurately what a puppy's adult size will be. She will know if her lines grow quickly and stop growing early or grow into their second year.

BamaFan121s 02-13-2009 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2469205)
That's not true. Reputable breeders know their lines and carefully breed to produce puppies as close to the standard as possible. A reputable breeder can predict pretty accurately what a puppy's adult size will be. She will know if her lines grow quickly and stop growing early or grow into their second year.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
That was what I was trying to point out.

jexxie 02-13-2009 06:33 PM
Well, maybe you guys are right. All I know is that I have heard from different people on here that the growth chart isn't accurate, that they can either have growth spurts or slow down on growing, and that they can also have genes from ancestors that can make them get bigger than expected.. I don't know.. I just feel like a 6 lb dog whether it's on the higher end of standard or not is still standard, and it's not very big... Many people on here have also told me that it's not healthy to breed a 2-3 lb female and that pups that small can have health problems.. So, I don't know what to believe or what not to believe.. I've had experienced breeders tell me different things on several occasions.

Ladymom 02-13-2009 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2469514)
Well, maybe you guys are right. All I know is that I have heard from different people on here that the growth chart isn't accurate, that they can either have growth spurts or slow down on growing, and that they can also have genes from ancestors that can make them get bigger than expected.. I don't know.. I just feel like a 6 lb dog whether it's on the higher end of standard or not is still standard, and it's not very big... Many people on here have also told me that it's not healthy to breed a 2-3 lb female and that pups that small can have health problems.. So, I don't know what to believe or what not to believe.. I've had experienced breeders tell me different things on several occasions.
You are right. That's why knowing your lines (your dogs' ancestors) is so important to predicting adult weight. We get members here all the time who buy puppies from byb's or hobby breeders and end up with a 12 pound Yorkie even though the parents were half that size. You have to know the gene pool to predict adult size, temperament and future health of your puppies.

xxmxaxrxyxx 02-13-2009 06:42 PM
i am not trying to sound mean but just wanted to say if you are breeding to make money...its not going to happen...trust me...i think i am in serious debt from breeding...hehe

and don't worry about them only be 13 weeks...just take your time....

i had a litter of Maltese back in July of last year....still have the female until last week...she finally found her forever home in NY....she is being shipped tomorrow morning...and she is almost 7 months...

i love my furbutts so i don't rush things...if its meant to be then it will happen...good luck and keep us posted!

BamaFan121s 02-13-2009 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2469514)
I just feel like a 6 lb dog whether it's on the higher end of standard or not is still standard, and it's not very big...
You are right on that...I agree with you. 6 lbs is a healthy size, standard Yorkie, IMO. :)

jexxie 02-13-2009 09:58 PM
I'm definately not breeding to make money. I did think it would be a little easier to sell them than it has been, but with the vet bills, food, etc. I wouldn't be making much if anything from them.


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