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jencar98 10-09-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by katelin (Post 2275022)
Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 2275650)
:thumbup::thumbup:

Yeah I don't understand it either:confused::rolleyes:

Although the review has become negative, this is the "Review Section" and this thread has been a review of the OP's breeder inquiry. And, I do believe if this breeder treated cats badly enough to be banned for life from CFA, then it's relevant to the topic.

baby03 10-09-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2275148)
Guys I think this whole bashing was a set up. OP comes on asking her question, then the next thing a bunch of cat people come on board to bash her. One breeder even stated she bred a dog that was insane because she was a "good producer". This board needs to be closed down, it was all about bashing and revenge on someone. Even if she is a bad breeder she does not deserve this type of treatment from a bunch of women who are mad and one even stating she is producing puppies off a "mental case". This breeder stated that the animal lived in a cage and that is why. Still doesn't matter, she probably still is a mental case and should have snapped out of by now if she is not living in cage.

Oh I have been to cat shows, and those people are rude, mean, and right down hateful. They have been known to make cats sick so they could win a title. Not saying it is the posters, but I know for a fact that some do it. I also know some that are showing risk the cats lives, because they want to produce show and they find out the cats tested Positive for PKD, so they feel if they put one negative PKD with a POS.they will have a 50% litter of Neg. PKD kittens. Horrible liver disease, however out of a show breeder mouth... "its to expensive to start back over, so what am I suppose to do".


Excuse me but no reason to attack the OP. She has been on YT a while now and had a bona fide inquiry. Yt is here for this very purpose. Anyone wanting info on a prospective breeder needs to be able to ask questions regarding their reputation. You can't blame the OP for the breeders bad rep she did that all on her own.

baby03 10-09-2008 10:35 AM

Nonsense??? Its a breeder review section....................

yorkieisme 10-09-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baby03 (Post 2275721)
Excuse me but no reason to attack the OP. She has been on YT a while now and had a bona fide inquiry. Yt is here for this very purpose. Anyone wanting info on a prospective breeder needs to be able to ask questions regarding their reputation. You can't blame the OP for the breeders bad rep she did that all on her own.

I did not bash the OP.........please read it over. I just said it was a set up, now if that is bashing okay I guess in a way I did. But read what everyone is now posting out of the blue about this one breeder. Does it not seem a little off to you? Everyone that has bashed is brand new. Maybe it just a weird thing that happened. Maybe not, who knows........So if the OP was offended I am truly sorry, and I was not really directing what I stated at her.

cesar49 10-09-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2275737)
I did not bash the OP.........please read it over. I just said it was a set up, now if that is bashing okay I guess in a way I did. But read what everyone is now posting out of the blue about this one breeder. Does it not seem a little off to you? Everyone that has bashed is brand new. Maybe it just a weird thing that happened. Maybe not, who knows........So if the OP was offended I am truly sorry, and I was not really directing what I stated at her.

the only basher was nexxus providing information about the dovercastle lady.. it is a big deal i guess..an old feud...
a public forum is very valuable in finding the truth.. :thumbup:
maybe she has reformed.. or maybe she is being falsely accused...
either way.. she has grounds for libel and is choosing to be silent.. its
a sad world... it probably was a set up.. a rich lady in the show dog world....:animal-pa but it really is none of my business:animal-pa

yorkieisme 10-09-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2275743)
the only basher was nexxus providing information about the dovercastle lady.. it is a big deal i guess..an old feud...
a public forum is very valuable in finding the truth.. :thumbup:
maybe she has reformed.. or maybe she is being falsely accused...
either way.. she has grounds for libel and is choosing to be silent.. its
a sad world... it probably was a set up.. a rich lady in the show dog world....:animal-pa but it really is none of my business:animal-pa

Hey Ceasar, long time no hear. How is Gus Gus?

cesar49 10-09-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2275756)
Hey Ceasar, long time no hear. How is Gus Gus?

thanks for asking.. he is great..back to himself except his hair is still growing back.. little grizzly bear yorkipoo..we love love love gus gus..:)
how are your babies?:aimeeyork

yorkieisme 10-09-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2275763)
thanks for asking.. he is great..back to himself except his hair is still growing back.. little grizzly bear yorkipoo..we love love love gus gus..:)
how are your babies?:aimeeyork

I am glad to hear that Gus Gus is doing so well. Chino is doing great, we so love him. this breed is awesome.

Lorraine 10-09-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2275743)
the only basher was nexxus providing information about the dovercastle lady.. it is a big deal i guess..an old feud...
a public forum is very valuable in finding the truth.. :thumbup:
maybe she has reformed.. or maybe she is being falsely accused...
either way.. she has grounds for libel and is choosing to be silent.. its
a sad world... it probably was a set up.. a rich lady in the show dog world....:animal-pa but it really is none of my business:animal-pa

Really? Animal abuse information is none of your business? Then why have the phrase in your signature that you have as it is none of anyone's business about pet stores, puppymills etc.

NanaDtreasures 10-09-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by katelin
Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 2275650)
:thumbup::thumbup:

Yeah I don't understand it either:confused::rolleyes:

Wow is all I can say...:confused:
I agree with you all...This thread should have been closed long ago:confused:

katelin 10-09-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 2276243)
Wow is all I can say...:confused:
I agree with you all...This thread should have been closed long ago:confused:

I'm not against exposing a bad breeder or animal cruelty -- I'm for it. But after the information had been given this turned into a cat fight. Literally.

cesar49 10-09-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 2274698)
Hmmmm seems like the cats out of the bag now. So does any one still think the thread should have been closed so warnings could not be posted?
Do you think this is rather serious and perhaps should be known?

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
i agree.... this is probably why the thread was not closed..
but there are 2 sides to every story..
and maybe we should not judge people we dont know
is this about animal abuse or money?
she denies the abuse.. :animal-pa

Harley_chik 10-09-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by heavenlydogs (Post 2275427)
I'm a rescue person, and have been rescuing animals for 17+ years now. In my experience, and I know that most rescue people will agree, where there is smoke there is usually fire of some sort.

I don't see a setup, I simply see that the cat people are keeping a close eye on this person, and there were some valid points in the posting. We may not have all the details, but she was right that for the Cat Fanciers Association to ban you for life, it ad to be pretty drastic, this was not a fine, or a warning or admonition, they took a firm stance.

How do you see it as set up? a question was asked, and answered. As for a bunch of cat people
seems there is ONE telling what the cat people know about this person who was a CAT PERSON, and was kicked out of all the cat clubs, for reasons given. http://www.cfainc.org/org/disciplinary-suspensions.pdf does confirm part of her posting.

As for cat people rude have you been to a dog show lately ? or horse show ? don't label a group of people
for those few. We are all animal lovers who have a preference, ours happens to be Yorkies, and in my case, any living animal with 4 legs and breath qualifies, lol.

And as I see it, that breeder, she said the dog was insane she never said it still is, ' did you see something I didn't?

I think that enough has been brought out here that dovercastle will be watched. If and when anything comes out, then we will know that the Cat people and the other breeders were justified in saying all this. If not it will die it's natural death, and her work will stand for itself.

Being in rescue, and being members of various groups, I will say this is not the first time I have heard murmerings about this person/kennel. All I can say is watch, and wait, and be careful in any dealings.

It may not affect those of you who are further away much, because you may not have dealings in Canada, but for the Canadians, it is a flag to be watched.

One more thing... if you hate reading this, just ignore it and move on. If something is no longer of interest to me or bores me, it's time to move on to something a heck of a lot more interesting.

Now don't attack me its JMO.

:goodpost:

Great post actually!!! This breeder is more than welcome to defend herself. She obviously knows about this post. I for one find it suspicious that mentions all those show accomplishments, but nothing about how much she loves her dogs, where they live or how healthy her bloodlines are. I take everything I read on the web with a grain of salt and anyone with common sense probably does too.

cesar49 10-10-2008 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Harley_chik (Post 2276500)
:goodpost:

Great post actually!!! This breeder is more than welcome to defend herself. She obviously knows about this post. I for one find it suspicious that mentions all those show accomplishments, but nothing about how much she loves her dogs, where they live or how healthy her bloodlines are. I take everything I read on the web with a grain of salt and anyone with common sense probably does too.

:thumbup:
i agree harly chick..
bmw motorcycles rule:cool:
she is not going to post here again:animal-pa
like i have said before
puppymill people are not too bright:p
they are also lazy and evil:eek:
her posting was all about her show accomplishments:thumbdown
not too bright:animal-pa
those champion ribbons dont mean a thing:p

yorkieisme 10-10-2008 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2276700)
:thumbup:
i agree harly chick..
bmw motorcycles rule:cool:
she is not going to post here again:animal-pa
like i have said before
puppymill people are not too bright:p
they are also lazy and evil:eek:
her posting was all about her show accomplishments:thumbdown
not too bright:animal-pa
those champion ribbons dont mean a thing:p

Puppymill people are very bright and that is how they are able to get away with most stuff that they do. EVIL is a bad word in my house.
I don't think she really came off as bragging about her accomplishments, I think that was the way she was trying to defend herself, by stating "if I do this how come my dogs are winning in shows". I would find it very hard to put a yorkie in a show coat and throw them in cage when ever they come back from showing.
Now here is the question to show breeders, do you still take the "reward" if you sold the dog to a show home, and is it true you are not the one rewarded unless you bred for three generation than you have the right to "brag"? This part I am really confused on.


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