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yorkiekist 08-23-2008 09:41 AM
CA AB1634 Mandatory Spay Neuter Bill
 
Just thought you all would like to know that this California Bill, supported by Cesar Milan, by the way, was shot down yesterday!!!

Nancy1999 08-23-2008 12:03 PM
Lot's of propaganda about it, some good breeders are even afraid of it, and they shouldn't be, but lobbyist for certain agendas have spread so much misinformation.

Ladymom 08-23-2008 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2198664)
Lot's of propaganda about it, some good breeders are even afraid of it, and they shouldn't be, but lobbyist for certain agendas have spread so much misinformation.
:goodpost:

I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

yorkiekist 08-23-2008 02:34 PM
Since there was a similar bill introduce in az not to long ago, my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.

gardenyorkies 08-23-2008 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.
I totally agree with you on this part!..

Sookie 08-23-2008 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
Since there was a similar bill introduce in az not to long ago, my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.

Amen to that!

JaLaYorkieGirl 08-23-2008 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
Since there was a similar bill introduce in az not to long ago, my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I could not agree more!

MindieRose 08-23-2008 08:43 PM
There is getting to be too much government control as it is. This isn't china. I know its not the same as population control, but it would almost be a foot in the door.

Baby Blessing 08-23-2008 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I totally agree with you.

Lucia 08-24-2008 12:04 AM
I dont claim to know anything about the law in the US, but if it was mandatory to spay/neuter it would affect those reputable breeders breeding 'in the open' with licences, who want to better the breed - but all those doing it 'behind closed doors' such as puppy mills, would just carry on regardless of the law wouldn't they? Again, I don't know anything about the law, but just a thought:)xx

Ladyhawk 08-24-2008 03:52 AM
Isn't it funny how the government wants to control everything that has to do with dogs but not cats or any other pet. Last time I looked the cat population was more out of control than the dog. I feel like my choice of pet is being picked on.

tjdmom 08-24-2008 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
Since there was a similar bill introduce in az not to long ago, my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.
Excellent post. Remember when they went after the smokers and everyone was so happy? now they are going after the overweight people. I heard one state is trying to pass a law that restraunts can't serve you if you're over weight. Little bit by little bit we allow our freedoms to be chipped away until this is no longer a free country. By the way, I'm not or never have been a smoker but I think I'd rather avoid situations with smokers than have things headed in the direction they are going......and this is just one more example....

tjdmom 08-24-2008 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2199743)
Isn't it funny how the government wants to control everything that has to do with dogs but not cats or any other pet. Last time I looked the cat population was more out of control than the dog. I feel like my choice of pet is being picked on.
This is so true.... the last time I was at our local dog shelter, maybe a year ago there were No puppies and about 6 or 7 dogs. They had a room full of cats. I would say at least 50. Around here, I never ever see signs for free puppies anymore but in just the last few weeks I've seen at least 2, maybe 3 for free kittens. But I do have to say, compared to when I was a kid, there are much less of both. We always adopted from the shelter and at any given time they had litters of puppies and kittens but that does not seem to be the case around here any longer.

C C Kent 08-24-2008 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2198952)
Since there was a similar bill introduce in az not to long ago, my pesonal feelings on the issue is that I do not want the government in my business. They already snoop around too much and take too much of my hard earned money. Not only would this bill affect bybrs and mills (which would be a blessing), it will ruin the reputable breeders/exhibitor programs as well. I think there would be more harmful consequenses than good.
Couldn't agree more!!:thumbup::thumbup:

Ladymom 08-24-2008 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2199743)
Isn't it funny how the government wants to control everything that has to do with dogs but not cats or any other pet. Last time I looked the cat population was more out of control than the dog. I feel like my choice of pet is being picked on.
This is a perfect example of the misinformation that was circulated by lobbyists about this bill. It did apply to both cats and dogs.

It also contained exemptions for show dogs, working dogs, service dogs, etc.


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