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YORKIE_mom_2008 06-13-2008 01:38 PM
Tests?
 
Ok I plan on breeding my little guy when he is older. I was just wondering which test SPECIFICALLY to get done before hand?

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-13-2008 01:39 PM
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This is my little guy!

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-13-2008 07:08 PM
anybody???

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-13-2008 10:54 PM
HELLO?????? Where is everybody?

Ladyhawk 06-14-2008 03:21 AM
The picture didn't load for me so I can't see him. The first thing I would do is take him to a show and have him evaluated. Study his pedigree and know the lines that he came from. Talk to the breeder's of those lines to find out the health history. If he has more than 3 faults or a history of health problems within his line I would not breed him. Make sure that he is worthy of being bred first, do not add to the problems that are already plaguing our breed. Research the personality changes that occur once a male has stood at stud. The goal is to keep the breed strong and true to standard, if your boy won't help achieve this than I wouldn't breed him.

KYBLUE 06-14-2008 04:24 AM
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YORKIE_mom_2008 06-14-2008 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2049744)
The picture didn't load for me so I can't see him. The first thing I would do is take him to a show and have him evaluated. Study his pedigree and know the lines that he came from. Talk to the breeder's of those lines to find out the health history. If he has more than 3 faults or a history of health problems within his line I would not breed him. Make sure that he is worthy of being bred first, do not add to the problems that are already plaguing our breed. Research the personality changes that occur once a male has stood at stud. The goal is to keep the breed strong and true to standard, if your boy won't help achieve this than I wouldn't breed him.
Ok first of all I am pretty sure I said tests, as in health, not conformation to the breed. Secondly, I have had him evaluated and his only faults are an immature coat and slight underbite. I know that there maybe some personality changes but am prepared to deal with them. And I am in the process of researching/contacting his line's breeders. But back to the actual question... Which Health Tests should I put him through?

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-14-2008 01:02 PM
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BTW This is my guy.

MyFairLacy 06-14-2008 01:30 PM
These I feel ought to be done on every adult dog before being bred:

A very careful and thorough physical exam by vet
Complete Blood Panel
Bile Acid Test
Brucellosis Test (every time before breeding)

And these are the Health certifications available. It's very impressive to me when a breeder goes further than the basic health testing I mentioned above and gets their dogs certified for any of these things. If I ever decide to show and breed, I'd probably look into most of these for my dogs.

Patella and hips cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Patellar Luxation OFA: Patellar Luxation
OFA: Hip Dysplasia OFA: Hip Dysplasia
OFA: Legg-Calve-Perthes OFA: Legg-Calve-Perthes

Eyes checked & cleared & certified by CERF
CERF - Canine Eye Registration Foundation CERF - Canine Eye Registration Foundation

Heart checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Cardiac Congenital Disease OFA: Cardiac Congenital Disease

Thyroid checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Thyroid OFA: Thyroid

Ears checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Deafness OFA: Deafness
(personally, I think this probably isn't needed for our breed..)

You also want to do research into the pedigrees of the male and female to check for any genetic defects/diseases to identify if the dogs could be a carrier or not.

Ladyhawk 06-14-2008 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008 (Post 2050368)
Ok first of all I am pretty sure I said tests, as in health, not conformation to the breed. Secondly, I have had him evaluated and his only faults are an immature coat and slight underbite. I know that there maybe some personality changes but am prepared to deal with them. And I am in the process of researching/contacting his line's breeders. But back to the actual question... Which Health Tests should I put him through?
Boy are you defensive!! It sounds like conformation isn't important to you so those of us who love this breed and are devoted to maintaining the beauty of it as well as the health can't really help you can we? This would be why so many show breeders are not staying out of the breeding section. Good luck on your endeavors.

KYBLUE 06-14-2008 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2050439)
Boy are you defensive!! It sounds like conformation isn't important to you so those of us who love this breed and are devoted to maintaining the beauty of it as well as the health can't really help you can we? This would be why so many show breeders are not staying out of the breeding section. Good luck on your endeavors.


:yeahthat::clapsmile

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-14-2008 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2050439)
Boy are you defensive!! It sounds like conformation isn't important to you so those of us who love this breed and are devoted to maintaining the beauty of it as well as the health can't really help you can we? This would be why so many show breeders are not staying out of the breeding section. Good luck on your endeavors.
I did not say that I was uninterested in his conformation as I had him evaluated by a qualified breeder. All I was saying was that I originally asked what tests to put him through and instead I got stuff about showing etc! Do you automatically think that everyone just wants to breed for money/puppies? Or could their motives and passion be as pure as yours??? I think that people like you and all these other breeders who don't go to the "breeders section" anymore are responsible for much of this breed's deviations due to the fact that no one can ask a question about breeding without getting beat down for it! I LOVE THIS BREED AS MUCH AS YOU DO AND WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE DOGS THAT ARE HAPPY, HEALTHY AND CONFORM THE THE YORKSHIRE TERRIER STANDARD!
Now I would also like to thank the person who posted all of those useful links to the tests etc.

yorkiekist 06-14-2008 08:16 PM
I would never breed any dog with an underbite, slight or not. This is a major genetic fault and is passed on to the puppies. JMO

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-14-2008 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2050936)
I would never breed any dog with an underbite, slight or not. This is a major genetic fault and is passed on to the puppies. JMO
Thank-you I will take that into consideration

Ellie May 06-14-2008 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 2050402)
These I feel ought to be done on every adult dog before being bred:

A very careful and thorough physical exam by vet
Complete Blood Panel
Bile Acid Test
Brucellosis Test (every time before breeding)

And these are the Health certifications available. It's very impressive to me when a breeder goes further than the basic health testing I mentioned above and gets their dogs certified for any of these things. If I ever decide to show and breed, I'd probably look into most of these for my dogs.

Patella and hips cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Patellar Luxation OFA: Patellar Luxation
OFA: Hip Dysplasia OFA: Hip Dysplasia
OFA: Legg-Calve-Perthes OFA: Legg-Calve-Perthes

Eyes checked & cleared & certified by CERF
CERF - Canine Eye Registration Foundation CERF - Canine Eye Registration Foundation

Heart checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Cardiac Congenital Disease OFA: Cardiac Congenital Disease

Thyroid checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Thyroid OFA: Thyroid

Ears checked & cleared & certified by OFA
OFA: Deafness OFA: Deafness
(personally, I think this probably isn't needed for our breed..)

You also want to do research into the pedigrees of the male and female to check for any genetic defects/diseases to identify if the dogs could be a carrier or not.
Great Post:)
I might just have to save this.

OP: I would also have a urinalysis done


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