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My first question to you would be: Did you see them actualy Tie? When did she first spot blood indicating the start of her heat? If there was a tie, on what day from her first spotting did that take place?

Amen to that. I agree....a "pro" may have been through it a few times....but should this pup be prego the OP does have time to learn as much as she can about whelping and such. No reason to freak her out and abort. I believe she said her dog was already 7 pounds so her vet may say going through with it is a better option.

Breeders have difficulties with deliveries....and this owner may as well....that's why positive help is the perfect thing.

I wish you luck should you have pups on the way!! They will be ADORABLE!!!

I posted that a male that is too young could have deformed puppies. I have since found out that there is no scientific data to back this up, and a sperm is either viable or it is not. So while a younger puppy has less viable sperm then an older dog, and it would be more difficult to impregnate the dog, there is no such thing as immature sperm. I just wanted to clear this up; I would hate to spread unfounded information, for if we read something often enough, we begin to believe it to be fact. If someone has some scientific data to correct me, please post it. I see this thread has moved to the breeder's forum and I will let the experts take over. Best of luck to the OP, I hope everything works out for you.

I have not seen any blood yet, but she is very swollen down there. But she is constantly licking herself clean down there. the vet tells me that I may not see any blood because she is small and she is just keeping herself very clean. When you say when did I see them tie, what do you actually mean. I saw the Male dog on her several times, but just thought it was a domimant thing. Do they actually get stuck together. I don't mean to sound dumb or anything, but this is all new to me. I am certainly reading up on everything now.

Well if you haven't seen them tie (deson't mean it didn't happen) (and yes, they DO get "stuck" together, for lack of better explaination) chances are she is NOT pregnant yet. She would not be ready to accept the male until around 9-12 or more days into her heat. But that doesn't stop the male from trying. Heck, they try at anytime! heat or no heat! I would definitely keep them seperated for the next 3 weeks. When the female is ready, she will STAND for the male, her tail will be in the air and she will be backing herself up to the male. If you haven't seen any of this behaviour, she most likely is not pregnant. But still I would check with your vet to be sure. They can do tests that will determine what day she is into her cycle. She likely may be just starting her cycle if you have not seen blood yet.

Thank you for this! I thought that was the case, but wasn't positive, that is why I hesitated saying this exact statement myself.

She may just be starting her heat. After she goes potty if you take a white tissue and wipe her, its possible you may see some blood.

I would keep her and your male apart for at least 3 weeks.

A tie is when the male penetrates the female and they will actually be "tied" together. If not supervised you male can get seriously hurt so you do not want to leave them together alone. I think I read that she is 6 months old? If so, definatley keep them apart as she is way to young, regardless of size.

If you have any questions, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help you :)

Research shows and most vets agree that the abortion medicine is very harmful to the mama'ss and could be fatal. This is not to say it hasn't been used with success tho. it's just too big a chance to take.

Yea, I did read that. They just keep changing methods and medications and putting new ones on the market, then pulling them and trying another because of the dangers to the mom's. I sure wouldn't do it to my girl!

Can I get these resources?

I've only hear of the mismatch shot being dangerous.

But you know what? I'm friggin sorry.

I'm friggin sorry for the owners even with the 'ok' from vets STILL lose their dogs.

I'm friggin sorry for what my dog had to go through from losing her pup. Would of it been nice to of had her offsprings? Yes, but I would never ever want to put through another dog the same heartbreak when she lost her pup from being born a STILLBORN.

I wouldn't want to breed my HUMAN child for MY need of an offspring, adding to the human overpopulation, because I want a 'baby from her'. We call them our furkids, yet we treat them different from our kids?

I'm friggin sorry for the dogs who die EVERYDAY in shetlers Dogs In Danger who are just DAYS away from the needle.

I'm friggin sorry for going on Petfinder.com: Adopt a pet and help an animal shelter rescue a puppy or kitten. and finding yorkshire terriers in urgent need of homes, because people weren't prepared for 'a litter that size.'

You guys say you want to improve the breed, but its ok for this person, who knows if they're going to do genetic testings to make sure these pups aren't carriers to the yorkie breed's health problems, to be allowed to breed? :confused: I'm confused? Just because its for pet quality, doesn't mean we should prevent that chance? Because this dog has papers, its OK? What does a piece of paper have to do with anything?

I would highly suggest that if you want puppies so bad you volunteer at a rescue organization and when they have a mama with a litter that needs to be fostered you take them and foster them. This will give you a great idea on how it is not all fun in games to breed and how unwanted puppies end up in rescue organizations all the time. There are too many good dogs dying already. Note I'm not saying you do, but suggest. So don't twist my words.

I'm friggin sorry I don't breed my dogs, so I can't offer an advice on this forum, because I'm naive from having experience to do so. Because of course I have to experience a bitch of mines dying before I can say yes the can die.

I've gotten the best information from pet owners who do their research on breeding. I would trust those sources more than I would from a byb. Some same points that I had gotten from pet owners I've also gotten from responsible breeders, but never heard of from byb.

I'm friggin sorry I'm scaring people from THE TRUTH. Life isn't all rainbows and sunshines. Sorry you had to hear that. I'm sorry that I friggin care to much about dogs in shetlers, this persons dog, and the issues I have with breeding for an offspring.

Sorry I can't voice my opinions on this forum, because it isn't something positive. I'm sorry I'm not going to sugar-coat something that could be potientally dangerous. Not that it WOULD be dangerous, please don't twist my words.

Breeding isn't the world's safest things. Or am I wrong about that too? Because I'm not a breeder, so this would make whatever I say invalid to what breeder would say.

For the OP I hope your dog isn't pregnant and whatever you choose to do with your dog, I'm wishing for the best outcomes for our dogs and her possible pups. ;) I bolded that, because sometimes people only read the negative and could give 2cents on what was said on a positive note. People are making me sound like I'm the bad person here........sorry I'm trying to be the voice for pound puppies, there sure isn't anything positive about that. I'm not wanting the worst for these pups, I'm wanting the best......but no one is seeing that, all they see is that I'm a puppykiller for suggestion to abort these pups.

Sure you guys might see the end of the rainbow, because you guys get to be around cute puppies being born...........try being on the other end of that rainbow putting down puppies that did nothing wrong but be born, but could not find homes in time.

Most vets will not even give the injection to induce an abortion...it is simply too dangerous for the dam.

Btw, you had your own oops litter correct? But somehow you didn't take your own advice as given above?

I didn't have the money for it. If I had the money, I would of done it.


If my 12 yr. old human daugther became pregnant, due to her age and size I would suggest her to abort. Do to her beinging so young, I wouldn't want to risk losing her. Of course the ultimate decision is up to her, but I would suggest it to her. Most people would agree with the suggestion. But when it comes to our furkids, the same considerations aren't taken? Why is that?

PGF treatment is an effective treatment for termination of pregnancy in bitches. Properly administered, it is also safe and does not appear to have adverse effects on future reproductive performance of the bitch.

I kept one of my pups, my sister kept one of the pups, my friend kept one of the pups, and my sister's co-worker kept one of the pups. They've agreed to get them s/n by 6 months. If anything happens and the cannot keep the dog, the must return the dog TO ME. Preventing these dogs ending up in a shetler. Its my responsibility for these dogs future, and a shetler is NOT one of them. I've also educated them about rescuing dogs in the future. These people were not looking for a dog, I offered them one and they said yes. If they were looking for one, I would of directed them to going to a shetler to get a dog. I offered these pups to people, BEFORE they were born. One person who I offered a pup, due to her pup dying.....could not get one of my pups, but now a I'm searching on petfinder for them for a future yorkie. They were going to go to a pet store prior to me telling them about petfinder.

while I don't recommend an "abortion" so far as shots, pills, etc to abort the puppies. What I do recommend is having her spayed as soon as she's out of heat. If this was my puppy, what I would personally do is have her spayed as soon as she was out of heat. That way it's a win/win situation...she's spayed with all the health benefits that go along with it, and if she was bred, she'll be spayed before the embryos have time to attach to the uterine wall and start to grow. I don't consider spaying so early in a pregnancy an "abortion", but the pet population is so out of control that I'd rather puppies be aborted than brought into a world where there is not enough homes for them :( Anyway, that\'s what I would personally do...have my dog spayed as soon as possible.