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MeganS 05-24-2008 07:21 PM

I don't think she is ugly at all. She's not standard by any means, but that doesn't mean she's ugly. I think she's adorable and with a new haircut and attention (and maybe a bit more meat on the bones :p) she could be beautiful! I'd love to have her...but I hope she can find a good home!

Charlene1963 05-24-2008 07:28 PM

I think animals are like people: some are easier on the eyes than others. Hopefully each finds somone who will love them as they are.

cooperk 05-24-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by browniesmom622 (Post 2009194)
I'm sorry that is rude that's like saying someone's child is ugly because you don't like the way they look. :thumbdown

Oh, lighten up. I guess you'd have to know me to understand that I have a quirky sence of humor. I absolutley adore all animals, and would fall in love with even the ugliest.

I've seen some ugly kids too! No, I would never say that to anyone tho'.

The difference is, the dog can't hear me! lol

cooperk 05-24-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BrodyF88 (Post 2009304)
there are no ugly animals
just ugly humans
all animals are beautiful!!!

Looks good on paper, but not reality :D
There are ugly animals too. They have usually been mistreated by a human.

My Mom had a Boston Terrier that was ugly as sin, but was the sweetest dog ever.

It reminds me of the joke of someone trying to set someone up on a blind date..."she's got a great personality," which means she's ugly. It doesn't mean they don't deserve to be loved!

cooperk 05-24-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by morningsting (Post 2008957)
OH NO!!! :( I love my Chi, lol. But no worries, I don't take any offense to what you said :) To each his own ya know?

-Amy

Please don't take offense Amy. I'm sure your Chi is a sweetheart, and may even be a good lookin' dog. lol :) It is a "preference" thing. My sisters seem to love them and I tease them terribly! Mostly that they got their chi's when they became empty nesters. Pugs have become quite the popular breed lately around me. I don't get it! Perhaps their personality wins them over, as they are very sweet dogs, but they even snort! :D

kuma 05-24-2008 08:44 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I have never seen an ugly dog.


I feel the same way.

morningsting 05-24-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperk (Post 2009472)
Please don't take offense Amy. I'm sure your Chi is a sweetheart, and may even be a good lookin' dog. lol :) It is a "preference" thing. My sisters seem to love them and I tease them terribly! Mostly that they got their chi's when they became empty nesters. Pugs have become quite the popular breed lately around me. I don't get it! Perhaps their personality wins them over, as they are very sweet dogs, but they even snort! :D

Oh no no no, of course I don't! It's totally cool :) Everyone has their own opinions & that doesn't bother me at all! :) Hahaa, I have heard that Pugs snort ... I really really wanted one, but unfortunately they can't fly in airplanes because they can't pant like other dogs can! So the airlines don't allow them to fly because of this. If I was living on the mainland, I would have gotten one in a heartbeat, lol. But you know what, I'm actually really happy that I couldn't get one. I absolutely LOVE my Yorkie & I love this forum! It's so great to have a place where everyone has the same interest - Yorkies! I wouldn't have it any other way :)

-Amy

journey826 05-24-2008 11:03 PM

wow!
 
that is really sad.I did not see one that was breed quality.their size's are way to big,health problems and the list goes on.they should NOT! be breeding!
I feel bad for the people out there who will rely on the breeders knowledge to acquire a pup that will be standard but find out later the dog is all wrong in all aspects yorkie.
but still they deserve to be loved and I for one have a soft spot for the sickly old looking ones:) those are my fav's
here's my girl and she is beautiful and healthy just allergies.

journey826 05-24-2008 11:04 PM

my girl
 
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sorry I'll try again!

morningsting 05-24-2008 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by journey826 (Post 2009592)
sorry I'll try again!

She is BEAUTIFUL! I adore her bow :)

-Amy

Janie616 05-27-2008 06:57 PM

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NYGee, You have a better attitude than the OP. Why post something just to make fun of it???


There are some bad looking dogs who have been famous.
CNN.com - 'Ugly dog' Sam dies at 14 - Nov 22, 2005
see picture below.

You have a good heart! This Yorkie can be made more beautiful.
Look at the TV Show "Ugly Betty", Ugly is the new beautiful.

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Originally Posted by nygee (Post 2009190)
I THINK SHE'S BEAUTIFUL... I HOPE SHE FINDS A GOOD HOME... SHE LOOKS VERY SWEET, POOR BABY!!!
THERE IS SOMEONE FOR EVERYONE, AND THE SAME GOES FOR HER!!
WITH SOME TLC, SHE'LL LOOK 100%...


:2hearts2:I LOVE MY FURBABIES :aimeeyorkNYGEE, :aimeeyorkGIZMO & :aimeeyorkGYPSY!!:2hearts2:


cooperk 05-27-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie616 (Post 2015100)
NYGee, You have a better attitude than the OP. Why post something just to make fun of it???


There are some bad looking dogs who have been famous.
CNN.com - 'Ugly dog' Sam dies at 14 - Nov 22, 2005
see picture below.

You have a good heart! This Yorkie can be made more beautiful.
Look at the TV Show "Ugly Betty", Ugly is the new beautiful.

Now, that's a very uuuuuugly dog!

Mom2BabyNatalie 05-27-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie616 (Post 2015100)
NYGee, You have a better attitude than the OP. Why post something just to make fun of it???


I didn't post it to "make fun of it"... I saw the ad while looking for a breeding quality dog to bring into my program.... I posted simply to relay my aggrivation of the quality of animals constantly being reproduced out there.

cooperk 05-27-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie (Post 2015131)
I didn't post it to "make fun of it"... I saw the ad while looking for a breeding quality dog to bring into my program.... I posted simply to relay my aggrivation of the quality of animals constantly being reproduced out there.

I think I was the one making fun of it. lol I'll take the blame. I did understand the OP's point of breeding gone bad.

lulababy 05-27-2008 07:24 PM

oh my goodness.. those poor babies!!!! poor sophia is probably missing a leg or something. is it that bad that they cant mention it on the site! i mean come on!!

the dog that the original poster posted up... i really dont believe that is a pure bred yorkie. on the site it says they adopted a dog to be in their breeding program and it ended up being mixed with a poodle. they obviously do not do any kind of investigation of the pedigree on these dogs they are breeding. this is just sad, and the prices they are asking... these dogs vary in appearance so much that they honestly look like they are in some kind of lost dog adoption kennel

MyFairLacy 05-27-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie (Post 2015131)
I posted simply to relay my aggrivation of the quality of animals constantly being reproduced out there.

It is VERY sad that most yorkies deviate so far from the standard that they don't resemble yorkies any longer. It's sad that sick, unhealthy, and unsound animals are being produced because of unethical breeders...and it is sad that the dogs and their owners have to suffer because of it. I don't understand the purpose of breeding a poor quality purebred, just as I don't understand the purpose in breeding mixed breed dogs :thumbdown Why can't breeders just breed the right way...I feel sorry for all the dogs being produced by the bad breeders out there :mad:

artie merlino 05-28-2008 08:25 AM

What AKC Standard???
 
I'm Sorry to say this but.....What "Standards" AKC or otherwise?
One word - "Breeding"! A Yorkie should look and act like a "Yorkie" period, there should be no question or doubt about it's Breed? I've seen too many
bad looking ones. All puppies are cute but what do they grow-up to be?
I know too many friends & family members with Yorkie's that puchased them with such high expectations and they are all disappointed b/c thay are not "Teacups" and too big, not the right Color too light or dark, poor hair quality their hair hardly grows and is not silky. Their ears don't stand up. No personality, their not smart and consistantly have health problems.
I hear all the complaints since my Sister has 2 Yorkie's, 1 was from a Local
Pet Store and the other from the Internet! So I get to hear her complain every day. Breeding is Everything, too bad too many Breeder's breed for the Money instead of breeding a better "Yorkie"! Some one will eventually purchase her no matter what she looks like, regardless of the price b/c she is a Yorkie! Does she even have Papers?:confused:

cj125 05-28-2008 09:08 AM

This lady is repeatedly breeding outside the standard. These are not just a few extremes cases from her litters (i.e. a runt and a large one from most litters). Her descriptions say it all. (teapots & teakettles) She's just mixing 2 dogs together and whatever comes out she's calling it a Yorkie. Well there is certainly nothing wrong with having a larger sized Yorkie, the difference is... she is doing this on purpose and without any regard for the breed. There will always be large and small ones coming out of litters - that's just nature - but to do it on purpose whether it for small or large ones - it doesn't matter - is not responsible breeding. JMHO....

cj125 05-28-2008 09:10 AM

Oh, while this dog is not breed standard - I'm sure someone will find it adorale and take it home to love. :thumbup:

cooperk 05-28-2008 09:17 AM

This is her statement about her (Kosoma Kennel) breeding in her Q&A area:
I have read that a responsible breeder will only offer puppies with limited registration and a spay/neuter contract. Why do you offer full registration?
The policy of offering only limited registration is sometimes based on the assumption that only show-quality dogs should ever be bred. We feel that appearance alone should not be the determining factor, especially since this evaluation is based simply on one organization's determination of what a Yorkie should look like. One of the many problems with this narrow view is that opinions vary as to what really constitutes a "perfect" Yorkie. In fact, the present description of show quality dogs varies from that a few years ago. Being painfully aware of our own imperfections, we do not think it reasonable to limit full registration to only "perfect" Yorkies. Many pet owners actually prefer variations on the Yorkie "standard".

At any rate, no one can definitively predict what an 12 week old puppy will look like as an adult, so deciding at that point whether or not a dog is "perfect" for breeding is not really feasible. Moreover, limited registration only means that the offspring cannot be registered--it does not prevent breeding, as the many ads for dogs "without papers" prove.

A spay/neuter contract is used by some breeders in an effort to prevent owners from breeding their dogs. Again, we find this to be of limited value, as owners can just as easily breed dogs without papers. In addition, we do not choose to dictate to owners what optional medical procedures they should have performed on their dogs. Some people choose to leave their pets intact for reasons other than breeding.

All this being said, there are times when we choose to offer only limited registration or spay/neuter the dog before leaving our care. We exercise these options if a dog should not be bred for health reasons, or displays extreme deviation from the Yorkie standard. For example, if a dog has had a hernia repair he/she should definitely not be bred (because this can be hereditary). Or a little girl may just be too tiny to ever safely have puppies. Instead of applying a blanket rule to registrations, we prefer to evaluate each of our Yorkies separately.

cooperk 05-28-2008 09:19 AM

Kind of says it all, eh?

RONLYNN 05-28-2008 09:20 AM

Wow...what is she??? She looks like somethin from a Dr. Zeuss book!

makemepretty 05-28-2008 09:24 AM

That picture has sure grown on me, it now reminds me of a vintage painting. Maybe how a yorkie looked long before it became the beautiful pampered pet it is now.

So sad really but beautiful at the same time. jolie laide?

yougetthesmiles 05-28-2008 10:25 AM

I don't even think that looks like a full blooded yorkie, looks like a mix of some kind to me. She is way to long.
Poor thing!

kelkiss5 05-28-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperk (Post 2016041)
This is her statement about her (Kosoma Kennel) breeding in her Q&A area:
I have read that a responsible breeder will only offer puppies with limited registration and a spay/neuter contract. Why do you offer full registration?
The policy of offering only limited registration is sometimes based on the assumption that only show-quality dogs should ever be bred. We feel that appearance alone should not be the determining factor, especially since this evaluation is based simply on one organization's determination of what a Yorkie should look like. One of the many problems with this narrow view is that opinions vary as to what really constitutes a "perfect" Yorkie. In fact, the present description of show quality dogs varies from that a few years ago. Being painfully aware of our own imperfections, we do not think it reasonable to limit full registration to only "perfect" Yorkies. Many pet owners actually prefer variations on the Yorkie "standard".

At any rate, no one can definitively predict what an 12 week old puppy will look like as an adult, so deciding at that point whether or not a dog is "perfect" for breeding is not really feasible. Moreover, limited registration only means that the offspring cannot be registered--it does not prevent breeding, as the many ads for dogs "without papers" prove.

A spay/neuter contract is used by some breeders in an effort to prevent owners from breeding their dogs. Again, we find this to be of limited value, as owners can just as easily breed dogs without papers. In addition, we do not choose to dictate to owners what optional medical procedures they should have performed on their dogs. Some people choose to leave their pets intact for reasons other than breeding.

All this being said, there are times when we choose to offer only limited registration or spay/neuter the dog before leaving our care. We exercise these options if a dog should not be bred for health reasons, or displays extreme deviation from the Yorkie standard. For example, if a dog has had a hernia repair he/she should definitely not be bred (because this can be hereditary). Or a little girl may just be too tiny to ever safely have puppies. Instead of applying a blanket rule to registrations, we prefer to evaluate each of our Yorkies separately.

Why would she even sell a dog if it has health issues :mad::mad:. She is a bad, bad breeder.
I feel sorry for that poor girl, she doesnt look in the best of condition. She should be given away to a good home, so that someone can lavish lots of love on her, and take some time to help improve the health and look of her coat. I dotn think she is ugly, she just needs some good ole fashion love and attention.


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