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How young/old can the stud be???? Ok. I'm new to this breeding stuff. I was wondering if anyone knows what a good age is to start breeding the stud? I'm trying hard to find a link online, but I'm getting frustrated trying to find something to let me know when. I have a male who is a little over 6 months old, and we had someone call to see if we might have a male to breed her female with. I haven't returned her call yet, because I wanted to find out how old our male needed to be. I know sounds silly, just really need to know. Thanks to whoever can help me. God bless, Heather |
I have always heard that they are ready around 1 year old. |
Akc? I think the stud has to be over 7 months for the AKC to recognize his offspring. You might try their site. I think it's on there. :) |
As far as I know the AKC will recognize a litter from a stud that is 7 months or older. |
Even if AKC regs at such an early age, a male Yorkie needs to be fully mature to use him properly for breeding. ONE BAD EXPERIENCE AND THAT BOY CAN BE RUINED FOR LIFE AND WILL NOT MATE!!! The first mating of a male should be fully supervised by totally experienced breeders. A virgin female is not the best candidate for proving him--if the female is proven and no puppies are produced from the mating you know it probably is NOT her. Then you have to find someone who will take a chance on losing a heat cycle to find out whether he is shootin' blanks or not. Has he ever been tested for STD's?If he doesn't produce could be a medical problem. I gotta shut up. By this time I know you are tired of me on my soapbox saying "There is more to breeding that putting 2 dogs together to make puppies!" |
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This is where a good breeder can give you good info. Your boy might pump 'em out like Fertile Tertile. But, he could have thyrodid problems, STD's, only 1 testicle, be a carrier of genetic syndromes/diseases/deformities. Those things have to be tested and be cleared before EITHER parent is bred. Say, you bought a little male-he is 8 months old and starting to be interested in doing "That". You notice he has a slight limp in his back leg. Off to the vet; x-rays needed. "Oh, doc, how much for that?" well, we have to anesthetize him so he will not be uncomf. "Oh, doc, how much for that?" maybe $250.00 for the o.r., the assistant, anesthesia, pre-asnesthesia and the actual X-ray (Now, we have to add the X-ray tech's charge, cost of the film and using the machine). kA-CHING kA-CHING The diagnosis "Sorry, your boy has LCP disease1" "what is that" Legg-Calvin-Perthes disease of the hip. and, oh, by the way, it is genetic AND HE SHOULD NEVER BE USED FOR BREEDING!" by NOW, YOU HAVE THE $1000.00 PURCHASE PRICE, his care and up-keep for 6 months, your heart is breaking (priceless) so maybe a total of $1800.00-$2500.00 and you still cannot breed the dog. And he will get worse and surgery to remove the hip joint is around $2000.00. So you find a wonderful vet tech who will love him, give him to her, pay what she pays for the surgery and then hope he walks fine without that hip joint and makes a therapy dog. BTW, this is the story of one of my little boys a few years ago. Could somebody hand me my cane so I can hobble down off the soapbox again? |
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Where I live, everything is pricey. A blood panel, vag. or penile smears and the routine offige fee for check-up..another total of over a hundred... |
Thanks!!!! You were alot of help. He's definately tested fine for everything, but most vets would rather not have breeders, because of the pet population being so out of control. We have a very healthy male, and he's already been trying to get on our 2 females that are only 5 months old. I definately have watched them closely. I'm not going to be one of those breeders that do it for the money. Our dogs are very very loved. We have 4 females and the one male. We have already bred our older female (she's 3 years old). She has produced 2 beautiful litters of 6 pups in each litter. But we were using a friend's male. They were great together, but we got ourself a male so we won't have to keep paying stud service. Our male is such a doll!!! Our females aren't tiny either, so I know they will do great to be pups. We kept 2 females outta the last litter we had back in January. So, they will hit around 8 lbs also, if not close to 10 lbs. Anyways, thanks a bunches for the advice. God bless, Heather |
send AKC an e-mail on age. If I remember correctly it's 8 months for males and 9 months for females. |
very useful information. not planning on ever breeding, but its interesting to know! |
My boy is 7 months old and he was trying at 5 months but I would never let him have enough time to get the job done. AKC requires the sire to be 7 months old OR DNA before they recoi=gnize the litter BUT a male can produce a litter as soon as his testicles drop. As early as 4 months. Some males catch on quick, some don't. |
Heather, If you have 2 females expected to be over standard, please spay them. Since your not in it for the money, I am assuming you will breed for standard. Standard is under 7 pounds. |
agree I have to agree with Lovefor3yorkies. Try to at least stick to the standard. Getting up there to 10 pounds is very large. JMO ;) |
The puppies We will have some females that are on the bigger side to use for breeding, but the pups will remain small because our male is very little. Does that make a difference. I don't do AKC, I do ACA, and there are alot of people in this area that want yorkies a bit over the standard small size. I'm just a hobby breeder and I don't feel there's anything wrong with what I'm doing. |
Uh Oh.......... |
The issue of the size of the dams is certainly to be considered. BUT, there is at least one post on almost every thread about deciding to breed or not, that points out how far back in the ancestry the parents go for the characteristics of their get. I do have to agree with those who have said to spay the larger girls..the genes that divide to give these babies their uniqueness do not divide down the middle so that each puppy gets equal numbers-the small will off-set the large is what some believe. Well, it AIN't so!! And, when we know from the gitgo that at best we are using oversized pet quality female breeding stock, we cannot hope to produce Yorkies of quality. This is not directed at the person who started this thread but it is something any responsible pet owner will take these into consideration. Money is certainly of interest in these breedings. If not, the puppies would have been kept to altering age and after surgeries are done, give the puppies to family and friends. The puppies that are already here will make wonderful family pets given their size. After researching the breed, educating oneself about the lines, genetics and all phases of breeding then an educated decision can be made as to whether or not to breed. JMHO. |
thank you for your comments........... So far, we've had 2 litters, and no problem selling any of them, with owners knowing what the mom and dad looked like, and that was both parents being 8-10 lbs. All our pups went to homes as pets, not for breeding. So, if I can provide others with a great yorkie for a pet, then that's what I'm meant to do. I guess I'm not into the breeding for the AKC part of it, or showing them. I just totally love yorkies, and I have such a love for the ones I have. I definately am not breeding just to be breeding and will be watching mine closely. I was here for both births from our 9 lb female, Muffy. She did great. I'm nervous about breeding my 6 lb yorkie though, because she seems so tiny. But we'll see. Again, thanks for the input. |
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Thank you Txshopper.............. I was getting very frustrated with the responses to my post. All I wanted to know is when I could breed my stud, and I got alot of bad responses back. I don't know what brought me back to look, because I wasn't going to come back to YorkieTalk. I was very hurt. I've posted my pups here before and got alot of great responses. I even had 2 people from this website buy my pups. I don't understand where all the controversy came from. I feel so much safter breeding a bigger female with a smaller male. My babies are my babies, and I don't want to take the chance of putting any of them in danger, just because I want to breed smaller yorkies. I'm not AKC registered either, mine are ACA. I breed primarily for pets. Thank you again for your response. I was pretty hurt. I'm glad someone cared enough to post a positive remark for me. :-) |
I Just Dont Understand This is my 1st time back, I left yorkie talk for this reason right here. People judge and get mean on here rather than help. I BOUGHT ONE OF HEATHERS BABIES. AND I WOULD BUY ANOTHER ONE AGAIN FROM HER. What gives some of you the right to judge so harshly. She asked for advice. She has had 2 succesful litters already. I would rather buy a bigger size yorkie than a smaller size one. My Rascal was from Heathers last litter from Muffy. He is the best little guy ever, My vet said there is nothing wrong with him at all. He is perfectly healthy. My vet also said it is better to have an 8 pound yorkie than the smaller ones. Less health problems. Heather even worked with Rascal to help start potty training him. This is just awful how some people on here judge what they dont fully know. You dont know her dogs, you dont know anything but that she has had 2 litters with no problems, and just wanted to know when to breed her new baby boy. I thought this site was to help. |
thank you sbaird............. That brought tears to my eyes. That touched me so much. I'm to the point where I'm ready to leave YT also. I'm very disappointed in all this. I get slammed for breeding a larger female, and someone just posted about having a litter of 7 puppies with parents that are both on the larger side for yorkies also, and I read some of the posts, and everyone was so excited for her, and not slamming her. I'm very excited for her on her 7 puppies. Muffy has had 6 in both of her litters. btw, congrats on the 7 puppies. I'm not upset about your post what so ever, just upset with with the way some people responded to my post. |
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aca Go to the ACA web site and they will tell you all their rules. ...and welcome. |
Please don't judge YT on the basis of this thread please. You will learn which members are harsher and which are less so and one of the harsher posters is new too so even the newbies have to learn how we inter-relate but admin does a great job encouraging us to be as welcoming and warm as possible to newbies and not jump down their throats at every opportunity and criticize their breeding practices or scream at them for using the word "teacup"....OMG!!! LOL. Some members do a better job than others but there are over 4000 so you will find wonderful friends and learn who to avoid, if yiu know what I mean. We have an ignore feature to so if there is a particular member who offends you can place him or her on ignore. Welcome and happy posting! |
I dont see how A 10LB YORKIE IS ANY LESS A YORKIE THAN A 5LB ONE. |
A 10 pound Yorkie is twice the Yorkie as a 5 pound one!!! LOL |
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