YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   Breeder Talk (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/breeder-talk/)
-   -   Attacked by a breeders yorkie (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/breeder-talk/127732-attacked-breeders-yorkie.html)

BabyFidgette 04-29-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 1949697)
I have visited other breeders before and have noticed the mommies were sweet. The pups are 9 weeks. Not too young. The whole thing just put me off. So I am not sure if this is social or a trait that will be passed on. I have mixed opinions, but do I take a chance. This is a 15 yr commitment. The pups had sweet temperaments..Should I get a boy from another breeder?

This behavior that mom has will most likely be a trait transfered to her puppies. I wouldn't want an anxious pup like that. Sorry, JMHO.

ckuz13 04-29-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette (Post 1952278)
This behavior that mom has will most likely be a trait transfered to her puppies. I wouldn't want an anxious pup like that. Sorry, JMHO.

Is this a fact honestly? It is not behavioral?

lilstar63100 04-29-2008 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 1952394)
Is this a fact honestly? It is not behavioral?

I think its all about opinion. I've seen puppies who are terrified or aggressive the first day of puppy class and after a few weeks of socializing its a new dog. Puppies are easy learners and as long as you socialize him when he's young I think he'll be fine.

Julz 04-29-2008 10:34 AM

I would believe the breeder when she said that it had never happened before. Sounds like the mother got very nervous.

mogli 04-29-2008 10:47 AM

When I got Mogli, I saw the mom and dad, but didn't ask to hold them. I was more concerned with how they looked and the facilities in general.

With Benny (coming home Saturday) ... I was more courageous, the mommy was laying with the babies. I got down low and let her sniff me while she grumbled ... but then she started licking my hand ... then the breeder stepped in because she was trying to bite me! Heh, I didn't even realize the licks turned to nips ... she was just being protective 'cause the babies were trying to get some lunch!

“A dog that intends to bite does not bear its teeth.”

BabyFidgette 04-29-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 1952394)
Is this a fact honestly? It is not behavioral?

You'll have to ask the breeders here on YT for a positive answer. I've always heard that if you want to know what a new pup is like see their parents (temperment, looks, etc.).

Yorkiedaze 04-29-2008 12:54 PM

I could understand a little soft growl from the mommy dog if she was laying with her babies and you tried to take one, but I don't understand the nip she gave you while you were leaving. Doesn't sound like this mommy has been socialized very well, but hard to say if it's really aggression.
I'd also wait till the puppy is at least 12 weeks old before getting it. ;)

bchgirl 04-29-2008 01:01 PM

I don't think that behavior can be inherited. I think it depended more on the socialization of the mother and whether she's been exposed to having people in the home with her puppies. Exposure to a lot of stimilus as a puppy helps with socialization...be it people, other dogs, noises.

ckuz13 04-29-2008 01:54 PM

came back from a second visit. Mom still did not warm up to me. She was better but she is not the sweetie I hoped for. The pups on the other hand are so sweet. The one I like the most is very mild mannered and she kept coming to me and she loves being held. They are 9.5 weeks still young but use the dog door and are eating great all by themselves. She said she does not give them nutrical, has not had to. They are pretty solid. Not too fragile. The ears are needing some trimming up but over all cute potential other then my fear of moms temperament. I do not want to pay 1100 for her. I think it is too much for not being health screened or really even not having much experience with the breed. Hobby breeder. She is a very ,very pleasent woman. I don't find her to be ill- hearted at all. She loves her dogs, she is just not a gung-ho breeder. I felt I knew a-lot more about the breed then she did, but she is the one with the yorkies not me. Oh, the pups are not crated they have their own tiled bedroom with all their stuff..so I wonder if coming home to me and sleeping in a crate would be traumatizing. I plan on crate training. I saw one of the pups already running over to her carpet to pee. So they already have picked up some habits.

katelin 04-29-2008 02:23 PM

I still weigh in heavily for socializing being the cause of the mom's distress. I really, really don't think this is an inherited trait that you would see in your puppy -- assuming you do socialize him/her.

It will be interesting to see what you do. Keep us posted.

lilstar63100 04-29-2008 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katelin (Post 1953147)
I still weigh in heavily for socializing being the cause of the mom's distress. I really, really don't think this is an inherited trait that you would see in your puppy -- assuming you do socialize him/her.

It will be interesting to see what you do. Keep us posted.

:thumbup:

Julz 04-29-2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 1953082)
came back from a second visit. Mom still did not warm up to me. She was better but she is not the sweetie I hoped for. The pups on the other hand are so sweet. The one I like the most is very mild mannered and she kept coming to me and she loves being held. They are 9.5 weeks still young but use the dog door and are eating great all by themselves. She said she does not give them nutrical, has not had to. They are pretty solid. Not too fragile. The ears are needing some trimming up but over all cute potential other then my fear of moms temperament. I do not want to pay 1100 for her. I think it is too much for not being health screened or really even not having much experience with the breed. Hobby breeder. She is a very ,very pleasent woman. I don't find her to be ill- hearted at all. She loves her dogs, she is just not a gung-ho breeder. I felt I knew a-lot more about the breed then she did, but she is the one with the yorkies not me. Oh, the pups are not crated they have their own tiled bedroom with all their stuff..so I wonder if coming home to me and sleeping in a crate would be traumatizing. I plan on crate training. I saw one of the pups already running over to her carpet to pee. So they already have picked up some habits.


Leaving the only home they have ever know will be tough on the pup. Some adjust really quick and others take more time. I always recommend that you don't take the pup anywhere to show it off for the first 3 days and have as few people as possible come over to see it during those three days. That gives the pup time to adjust to the new family and make bonds. I recommend the new owners hold the pup a LOT while sitting on the floor (so it doesn't fall). Oh gosh, I think I'm getting carried away....:D

teffiemoore 04-29-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 1951621)
As we reflect back we were holding our parents chihuahuas earlier that day..older, healthy and vaccinated..but do you think maybe the mom picked up the other dogs scent and this set her off? or should that have not still happened?


You know this is exactly what I was going to ask as I was reading this thread...When our girl Dori had her first litter, I had been over to my Dads and been around his Shiloh SHephard and when I came back, she sniffed and sniffed all over my legs and feet and ran back to the whelping box and layed on the pups and it was ME!!! Now, whenever she has pups, she is very protective whenever strangers come to the house..she too has even nipped at two particular individuals, one my brother whom she didn't know and a 13 year old boy..now, she doesn't have a bad temperament, she just obviously fealt threatened at the time for some reason....I myself wouldn't let this situation be the determining factor on not getting one of her pups, I would be more concerned on is the pup healthy, is the sire and dam healthy. Does the breeder know anything about their pedigrees. What does the premises where they are kept look like. How knowledgeable is the breeder on this breed. Is there a contract and what does she offer on it.ect.... Good luck on this. You are so so very smart to ask questions and be cautious!

ckuz13 04-29-2008 06:57 PM

thanks..Uhh I am forgiving a lot. She is a hobby breeder. She is not and expert on the breed. She has pretty yorkies. She is a realtor. No long term contract on health. She sees a local vet in our neighborhood. I trust her. So I am not expecting the world. For all the stuff I would love to have health screen, 1 or two yr health guarrantee, limited reg. breeding exp. etc.. I would be paying at least 1800 or more here in Az. So she does have a health cert. from vet exam. She at least took them to a vet. Most people here dock their own tails and vaccinate them. To avoid costs. So good breeders are hard to find. Not to say they are not here, just we all have a preference of a certain look we like in the Yorkshire terrier and we want it at an affordable price. I can afford to pay more but sometimes I want the best of both worlds. It makes me sick when I see some of these cute pics of yorkies and the owner only payed 700 or so. Then you have people here charging 1200 or more for Yorkies that half the time don't even look like yorkies. And that is for males..the females are so much more. So that is why it is a tough decision. thanks..time is a ticking.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:32 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168