CKC to AKC
 

I have a yorkie who is CKC reg because the breeder said AKC is too expensive. However, I would like my puppies to be AKC reg. What do I do? Is that possible?

unless both parents are akc and the parent's were already akc reg there is no way to get them akc reg

thanks... I guess... :(:(

Yep....This is true

Sorry.
To register a litter with AKC is not really that expensive. She might not have registered them with AKC because her dogs might not be AKC registered.
T.

I think AKC is too expensive. they have been raising their prices for years and are at least 3 to 4 times higher then any other registry if not more. There are other reputable registries then just AKC. this is the 21st century not the 18th.

WELL!:eek:

To register a whole litter with AKC - it is only 25.00. I guess AKC is higher because - it also pays for the representatives to check conditions of where dogs are kept, check breeders paperwork, etc... That has to count for something. I prefer to go with a registry where they check breeders. It is still very resonable - IMO. I also enjoy showing. P.S Sometimes you can get a coupon and get 10.00 off.
T.

Last I heard it was $40, $30 if you had the coupon. Then they have fees for this and fees for that and this and that. Just goes on and on and will continue to get higher.

I'm not a breeder, so I don't want to start anything,... but to me if you are already paying over $1000 for an average priced Yorkie (don't even make me tell you how much I paid for Brooke!!), can't you just add the AKC registry fee to the purchase price? Just like you would add cost of docking and dew claws removed? If you have 2-3 pups, it would be $10 or $15 more for AKC for each pup? Just wondering!:confused:

They use this as an excuse because their dogs aren't eligible. I'm sure they would gladly pay the $30.00 or $40.00 to do this because it increases the pups worth by much more than that amount. However, if the parents aren't registered or the have lost privileges for some violation they use the excuse that it's too expensive. Registering your pup shouldn't be a status thing, it's about helping to promote good breeding practices.

With the economy in shambles I don't think too many people are going to be buying $1000 puppies for a while leaving a lot of breeders to cut costs. Lets just hope they don't cut their vet care. It don't really matter what the registry is but there are a couple I would prefer over others but they all have good and bad points.

Here is a link to the form - http://www.akc.org/pdfs/literap.pdf
Litter Registrations: See only 25.00 and 2.00 per pup - that is it! So actually it is not that bad. The other fees listed is only if you want pedigrees, etc... And if you are breeding - you should know what the pedigrees would be before you breed, so you do not need a pedigree from them. Other fees are if you want to list the pups, or certificate - all those things you really do not need. I hope this helps.
T.

Last you heard? Have you registered with AKC? I have never paid that much unless I wanted a printed pedigree with the registeration. There are a lot of registeries out there, but most of them are not any good. The few that are reputable all charge a fee to cover the processing.

Well, you heard wrong. I just registered an entire litter for 25. plus 2. per pup. The way you are attacking AKC, I wonder if you are the breeder in question?

This is off the thread topic at the moment...but if AKC is the best-of-the-best what does CKC mean? How is it different. are the standards lower?

There is the legitimate Canadian Kennel Club (CKC), which is similar to the American Kennel Club, but for Canada, and another registry, started in the U.S., called the Continental Kennel Club (CKC) for breeders who aren't eligible for the AKC. Its primary use, I believe, is to mislead consumers. Any breeder can register any dog with the CKC so the "papers" aren't worth the ink they are printed on.

I am not attacking AKC, I think they are a good registry but just think their fees are a little high. I haven't registered a litter with them in about 8 years but I have see others paperwork. $25 + $2 per pup = $35 for a litter of 5 and that don't include a pedigree. I do know of at least one other excellent registry besides AKC and you can get a litter registered with Pedigree for about 1/2. Sorry, but I am not the breeder in question. I just wanted to give my opinion here.

Yes and it was the same last year when I registered Cookie's litter. I don't know where she's finding her prices.

The other registery in the US that is reptuable is UKC and this is some of their prices . As you can see, they are pretty comprable to AKC.


Litter Application

Litter Registration
Up to one year of age
$20

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Permanent Registration Certificate - to Litter Owner
with 3-Generation Performance Pedigree (&) Easy Entry™ Card $12

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Permanent Registration Certificate - to New Owner
with 3-Generation Performance Pedigree (&) Easy Entry™ Card $16

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Permanent Registration Certificate
with 3-Generation Performance Pedigree, Easy Entry™ Card
and Six-Generation Pedigree (showing up to 126 ancestors) $35

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Permanent Registration Certificate
with 3-Generation Performance Pedigree, Easy Entry™ Card
and Seven-Generation Pedigree (showing 254 ancestors)
* Dog must be “Purple Ribbon Bred”, meaning all 14 dogs in its three generation pedigree are UKC registered. This is idenitified by "PR" appear at the front of both parents' names. $50

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Breeder’s Record Free

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Breeder’s List
1 year listing
2 year listing
3 year listing $12
$20
$30

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Dual-Sired Litter $50
*Note: This fee is in addition to the cost of DNA profiles for both sires, the dam, and all pups in the litter.


Permanent Registration

Permanent Registration Certificate with
3-Generation Performance Pedigree &
Easy Entry™ Card - for dogs up to one year of age
- for dogs over one year of age to litter owner
- for dogs over one year of age to new owner $16
$26
$36

-- with an Offspring Report (add an additional fee of)
-- with a 6-Generation Pedigree(add an additional fee of)
-- with a 7-Generation Pedigree(add an additional fee of) $25
$19
$34

I just called the AKC to find out how much it would be to reg. Legacy and Impreza. It cost $25.00 for the litter application and an addtional $2.00 for each puppy. So I'm paying $29.00 for the both of them and the litter application. THEN, after that it cost $20.00 for each puppy you have.

For example: You buy a puppy from a breeder. The breeder pays the 25.00 plus 2.00 for each puppy they have in their litter. After they get the paperwork and you buy the puppy from them, you have to pay 20.00 for the puppy to be registered under your name.


I know I probably repeated what others have said, but I figure I would just put it all in one post to clear up anything.

Akc
 

99% of the breeders leave AKC because AKC they never had to be concerned about a knock on the door to oversee what they are doing....the extra costs, for the most part only effect a high volume breeder...the breeders effected by the economy will be the commerical breeder...the hobby breeder can cut back and only breed when they want..or not at all for awhile...a commerical breeder who supplies pet shops can not maintain 100, 200, 300 dogs and not breed them...

Alot of good CKC breeders out there..

I agree that their are alot of good breeders who have dogs registered with other registries.

I happen to buy my dogs on looks and size....not necessarily their pedigree... sometimes even champion backgrounds get lost with each generation... the registry is an afterthought.

I have some AKC dogs but that's not why I purchased them.

If you are happy with your yorkie and it's healthy that is all that really matters, isn't it???

OK, what was the original question?????..... Probaby the breeder didn't want to pay the AKC fees... her/his choice. ;)

.... and your pup and future pups by her cannot be AKC registered.

You are absolutely right. :thumbup: Just because a dog is AKC registered does not automatically make it a better quality representation of the breed, nor does it automatically mean the breeder is ethical and doing what is best for the dogs they have. You can get good and bad breeders and dogs with ANY registry--you can't base your decision and judgement off the kennel club affiliation alone.
Yes, there are many people who choose to use the lesser respected registries because they have something to hide or because they have AKC sanctions against them, but that doesnt neccessarily apply to EVERYONE who opts to breed outside of AKC. It's not fair or accurate to automatically assume that someone is using an alternate registry because they have done something wrong or because they have lost their AKC rights.

(ETA: I just realized how old this thread was....I'm not sure how I ended up on it...)

The main problem I have with the CKC is that a person could buy a puppy from a great AKC breeder who has spent years developing the line and only sells AKC limited registration, meaning the puppies should not be bred. The person could go ahead and breed the dog, and while it wouldn't be eligible for AKC the CKC would gladly register it. This happens all the time, and I think it's the same as stealing. A good breeders line is very valuable asset, and if someone wants breeding rights they should pay for them, however, many can't get breeding rights from a good breeder at any price, so they go about it this way. I wouldn't want anything to do with a registry that would register just any dog.

And an instance like that is all the fault of the registry? Shouldn't then part of the blame be placed on the dishonest person trying to register and breed the dog? Or even the breeder? What steps could they have taken to ensure the dog wouldn't be bred?

Generally speaking, there ARE lots of people who take advantage of the situation and do this, but that doesn't include EVERYONE--kind of unfair that those who ARE honest get grouped into the same stereotypical bunch.

question answered
 

Thank you everyone. I believe my question has been answered.