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Beauand Bisous 03-07-2008 03:27 PM
won't breed
 
I have a little 2 yr old, un-neutered male. He has already had a successful mate and I am now attempting to breed him again with a new female.

He is so not interested. Female is 6 yrs old, definitely in heat but he doesn't know her. He has spent the past day and a half with her and.....nothing.

Does he need more time? I just assumed hormones would take over and boom.

HELP

Ladyhawk 03-07-2008 03:37 PM
Apparently he doesn't think it's time. His nose knows when she ovulates and it knows when the eggs are mature and ready to be fertilized. My boy has never let me down, I trust his nose. You either missed ovulation or it needs more time. His nose will tell him when.

lisatodd 03-07-2008 03:37 PM
is she in standing heat? how many litters has she have?
6yrs old is a bit old in my opinion

bjh 03-07-2008 03:39 PM
Is the female at your home with the male? Are you keeping them separated except when you attempt to breed them? How long has the female been in heat?

Beauand Bisous 03-07-2008 03:44 PM
I have been taking the male to the females home. I have 4 yorkies here and I figure too much excitement for anything to happen.

First time female has ever been bred. She has been in heat for about 5 days

lisatodd 03-07-2008 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Beauand Bisous (Post 1831951)
I have been taking the male to the females home. I have 4 yorkies here and I figure too much excitement for anything to happen.

First time female has ever been bred. She has been in heat for about 5 days
well there you go....

Beauand Bisous 03-07-2008 03:53 PM
I don't understand. Do you think she is too old or the timing is wrong

bjh 03-07-2008 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beauand Bisous (Post 1831951)
I have been taking the male to the females home. I have 4 yorkies here and I figure too much excitement for anything to happen.

First time female has ever been bred. She has been in heat for about 5 days
It is best to bring the female to the males home. In my opinion it is risky breeding a female for the first time when she is 6 years old. I do not even attempt to breed until the female has been in heat at least 9 days.

Ladyhawk 03-07-2008 04:01 PM
I can't believe the owner of the female would do this to her gal. This would be like trying to have your first child at 50 years old, quite a difficult undertaking that would take alot of special care. This poor bitch is too old and the breeder far too inexperienced if she is trying to breed her on day 5. Your male knows better, he knows that it isn't time yet. Sounds to me like some more education and a younger bitch is needed.

BamaFan121s 03-07-2008 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Beauand Bisous (Post 1831985)
I don't understand. Do you think she is too old or the timing is wrong
Both. She IS too old to be having a first litter (or even a last litter for that matter) and she's only been in heat for 5 days.
Honestly, these are things the girl's owner should be WELL aware of if she is breeding her. These are basic principals of breeding that breeders need to have studied and gained knowledge of BEFORE breeding.
I would suggest that if your guy is stud material, you take him and seek him out a younger, more age appropriate lady.:p

Breny 03-07-2008 05:27 PM
My assumption would be that she just isn't quite ready. Most experienced males know when the right time is. Good luck!


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Originally Posted by Beauand Bisous (Post 1831896)
I have a little 2 yr old, un-neutered male. He has already had a successful mate and I am now attempting to breed him again with a new female.

He is so not interested. Female is 6 yrs old, definitely in heat but he doesn't know her. He has spent the past day and a half with her and.....nothing.

Does he need more time? I just assumed hormones would take over and boom.

HELP

Breny 03-07-2008 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beauand Bisous (Post 1831951)
I have been taking the male to the females home. I have 4 yorkies here and I figure too much excitement for anything to happen.

First time female has ever been bred. She has been in heat for about 5 days
Oops, just saw this. 5 days into heat is way too early. I also would be concerned about breeding a first time bitch at 6 years old. I don't think this would be healthy for the bitch.

EmrldShdwQueen 03-07-2008 05:48 PM
wow, 6 years old? :eek:

Most reputable breeders retire them around that age...

Beauand Bisous 03-07-2008 05:54 PM
Thanks so much for the info. I am sure the owner of the female has no idea she is too old. I am definitely going to tell her what I have learned here.

She loves her baby and would never knowingly harm her. Thank you for averting a potential tragedy.

mypreciouspups 03-07-2008 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1832008)
I can't believe the owner of the female would do this to her gal. This would be like trying to have your first child at 50 years old, quite a difficult undertaking that would take alot of special care. This poor bitch is too old and the breeder far too inexperienced if she is trying to breed her on day 5. Your male knows better, he knows that it isn't time yet. Sounds to me like some more education and a younger bitch is needed.
I know a girl who her girl just had a heat. she will be 4 this summer.. she wants to breed her.. to keep babies in the family.. and for herself.. I told her she was getting too old for a first breeding.. but I was not positive.. so she called her vet and he said no problem if she waits another heat...

Who am i to argue with her.. but would like to know from some of you breeders what you think on this.. without my taking away from this thread...


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