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lilydog 07-29-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nexus (Post 1665660)
Has Anyone Had A Dealing With Any Of Kingcreek Pups Such As Temperment Health The Condition Of Their Dog.pup. Any Imput Would Be Great As I Am Quite Concerned As They Have Many Many Dogs On Their Site To Me Looked To Be Very Untidy And Not Clean At All. It May Be The Pictures, Thank You Nexus

Yes, my Yorkie is from Kingcreek Kennels. She is amazing. She doesn't bark, doesn't nip and is so good natured. She is also very healthy and happy and when I visited the home kennel to pick her up it was exactly the kind of kennel that I was looking for. The pups are treated so well, not in filthy crates but running free and I would highly recommend it. I have a friend who had purchased their Yorkie from Kingcreek as well and are also very pleased. There are some pics on youtube that may show the fun the dogs have.

Moggymadd 08-12-2010 07:10 PM

Kingcreek kennels
 
We just purchased a year old Shih Tzu from Kingcreek Kennels. It was a lovely experience and we enjoyed meeting the dogs of all shapes and sizes. :animal36They were Shih Tzus, Yorkies and Silkies and we watched them running freely and having a great time. Our new dog Alfred is very very sweet and I took him to the vet a few days after we got him and he passed with flying colours. The vet's own words were "a lovely healthy dog". The farm where they live is clean and well maintained. I found nothing to discourage us from going ahead with adopting Alfred. Anita and Peter are delightful people and very accommodating. They answered all our questions even after we brought the dog home. The unkind remarks on this site are unfair and unwarranted.

BamaFan121s 08-13-2010 04:19 AM

Ah, yet another member who joins, digs up a ridiculously old thread and immediately posts the praises of a breeder that everyone else recognizes as questionable. If I had a dollar for everytime that has happened.....:rolleyes:

Rhetts_mama 08-13-2010 06:37 AM

Move on over Missy, you and I need to split that dollar. It's posts like these that make you go "hmmmmmm".

Google name alerts are an interesting tool.

Mardelin 08-13-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3237845)
Move on over Missy, you and I need to split that dollar. It's posts like these that make you go "hmmmmmm".

Google name alerts are an interesting tool.

I love it when they say they've taken the dog to the vet's and it is deemed healthy. Unless one requests that blood tests be run, x-rays be taken all a vet does is go over the pup...Looks at eyes, ears and listens to the heart; whalla, dog is healthy......

YorkieProud 08-13-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3237705)
Ah, yet another member who joins, digs up a ridiculously old thread and immediately posts the praises of a breeder that everyone else recognizes as questionable. If I had a dollar for everytime that has happened.....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3237845)
Move on over Missy, you and I need to split that dollar. It's posts like these that make you go "hmmmmmm".

Google name alerts are an interesting tool.

I would say a nickel and you both would still make a mint. LOL!


:aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork

gemy 08-13-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Moggymadd (Post 3237493)
We just purchased a year old Shih Tzu from Kingcreek Kennels. It was a lovely experience and we enjoyed meeting the dogs of all shapes and sizes. :animal36They were Shih Tzus, Yorkies and Silkies and we watched them running freely and having a great time. Our new dog Alfred is very very sweet and I took him to the vet a few days after we got him and he passed with flying colours. The vet's own words were "a lovely healthy dog". The farm where they live is clean and well maintained. I found nothing to discourage us from going ahead with adopting Alfred. Anita and Peter are delightful people and very accommodating. They answered all our questions even after we brought the dog home. The unkind remarks on this site are unfair and unwarranted.


Not at all, we also regard suspiciously ppl whose very first post is in support of a breeder/kennel.

gemy 08-13-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lilydog (Post 2730417)
Yes, my Yorkie is from Kingcreek Kennels. She is amazing. She doesn't bark, doesn't nip and is so good natured. She is also very healthy and happy and when I visited the home kennel to pick her up it was exactly the kind of kennel that I was looking for. The pups are treated so well, not in filthy crates but running free and I would highly recommend it. I have a friend who had purchased their Yorkie from Kingcreek as well and are also very pleased. There are some pics on youtube that may show the fun the dogs have.

Wonderful you live just around the corner from me, I'd love to see this kennel.

By the way what was the BAT reading on the sire and dam? And have you had your pup BAT tested yet?

gemy 08-13-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1665878)
Here are a few red flags that caught my eye:
--Breeding several (3) different breeds of dogs...and cats
--"Only people who want to show will grow the coat...":confused: Because the grooming is too time consuming?
--Generally, Yorkies get along and roughhouse w/ children!?

There's alot of info (parents? health guarantee?) that is missing from the site that you would need to know as well.

Looking at the Pedigree...looks like their dog Noah has came from some of the same lines/dog as one of Sugar's Mom's (Dee) dogs. Maybe you could contact her to get some more info on that line in particular....

Bama I couldn't read the pedigree on my screen it was so blurry.

BamaFan121s 08-13-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3238121)
Bama I couldn't read the pedigree on my screen it was so blurry.

I don't know if it's still there or a different one or what. This thread was from 2 years ago. :confused:

I did just about spill my coffee when I read on the site that "silkies are almost just like Yorkies, only healthier and cheaper." And that most breeders are prepared because they were raised on farms. HUH?

gemy 08-13-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3238124)
I don't know if it's still there or a different one or what. This thread was from 2 years ago. :confused:

:eek:Well I'll be hogswallowed Gotta look at those dates more.

BamaFan121s 08-13-2010 10:07 AM

Oh, and that 'once in a while they have HAPPY mistakes...called designer doggies.'

I'm sorry, but if anyone doesn't see the red flags all over the place here, then they CLEARLY don't know what they are looking for in regards to an breeder ethics. :thumbdown

Also says that it is PROVEN that people allergic to dogs are not allergic to Yorkies and Shih Tzus. I would like to know, just who exactly was that PROVEN by? And since they guarantee them to be hypoallergenic, does that mean that if you have an allergic reaction to them you can sue for breach of contract? :P

Rhetts_mama 08-13-2010 10:25 AM

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Also says that it is PROVEN that people allergic to dogs are not allergic to Yorkies and Shih Tzus. I would like to know, just who exactly was that PROVEN by? And since they guarantee them to be hypoallergenic, does that mean that if you have an allergic reaction to them you can sue for breach of contract? :P
That one always gets me. There is no such thing as a truly hypoallergenic dog. If you are allergic to dog fur, then yes, since yorkies have hair you are less likely to have a reaction. But what about being allergic to dander or saliva? Yorkies still produce both of those.

gemy 08-13-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3238156)
That one always gets me. There is no such thing as a truly hypoallergenic dog. If you are allergic to dog fur, then yes, since yorkies have hair you are less likely to have a reaction. But what about being allergic to dander or saliva? Yorkies still produce both of those.

True, but I heard that (whether true or not), that some allergists are saying now, that the problem is mainly (not in all cases) but in alot of allergic reactions to dogs, more of what is on their fur/or hair rather than the dog itself. Like pollen and dust and dander. Unfortunately cats fur is somehow different and there is little relief for allergy sufferers.

Silkylove 08-17-2010 12:57 PM

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I think you should all either get jobs, or stop reading Kingcreek Kennel's website up and down everyday. Don't you all have better things to do?

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?

How about this: Website is catered towards simple people - they use simple words and phrases to explain things. Its kinda like doctors using normal talk instead of using medical terminonlogy with patients ... Get it?? The general public is not very intelligent.

I'm not affiliated with the kennel or its owners - I just strongly believe that such harsh judgements should not be made by reading and picking on someone's website!

I love my silky that I got from Kingcreek ... Full gamet done at the vets - totally healthy! I don't need to say anything else, as i risk giving you all the satisfaction of picking on my words and being nasty!

Just my 2 cents ...

rik20101 08-17-2010 01:06 PM

This whole thread has been a hoot to read!!! More keep coming out of the woodwork too! YAY!

gemy 08-19-2010 07:03 AM

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?


Actually I am not from the US and dogs are shipped back n forth across the border all the time.

Hope you spend some time in the forums, sit yourself down, have a browse around.

Rachael x 08-20-2010 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkylove (Post 3242681)
I think you should all either get jobs, or stop reading Kingcreek Kennel's website up and down everyday. Don't you all have better things to do?

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?

How about this: Website is catered towards simple people - they use simple words and phrases to explain things. Its kinda like doctors using normal talk instead of using medical terminonlogy with patients ... Get it?? The general public is not very intelligent.

I'm not affiliated with the kennel or its owners - I just strongly believe that such harsh judgements should not be made by reading and picking on someone's website!

I love my silky that I got from Kingcreek ... Full gamet done at the vets - totally healthy! I don't need to say anything else, as i risk giving you all the satisfaction of picking on my words and being nasty!

Just my 2 cents ...

LMAO!! Thanks very much!! :rolleyes:

And can I just add about the dog allergies...
They say on the site that yorkies are okay for people with dog allergies?
Well I am allergic to dog saliva and fur.. I dont get a bad reaction but I do come out in a rash on my face.
My yorkie gives me this rash just as much as my schnauzer mix does. ;)

Rachael x 08-20-2010 04:32 AM

Wow.. just had a look at the site and those dogs are filthy. :(

Rachael x 08-20-2010 04:40 AM

AND I just have to post this because it made me chuckle.
This is what she says about scammers:

"Scammers advertise anywhere you would. The things to look out for specifically are misspelled words, poor grammar and things like my puppy is too hot for this climate, just pay her air fare......"

BUT the spelling on her own website is atrocious!! :D
She actually uses the word LOL on her website, not very professional is it?
The whole website looks like it was created by a child...

BFar 08-20-2010 05:01 AM

If you really have to ask after looking at that website, you need to take more time to educate yourself. I didn't spend much time there but I didn't see her any of the breeding stock being proven in the show ring, however, I did see some mutts offered for sale!

Moggymadd 09-18-2010 09:12 PM

Bravo !!!
 
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Originally Posted by Silkylove (Post 3242681)
I think you should all either get jobs, or stop reading Kingcreek Kennel's website up and down everyday. Don't you all have better things to do?

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?

How about this: Website is catered towards simple people - they use simple words and phrases to explain things. Its kinda like doctors using normal talk instead of using medical terminonlogy with patients ... Get it?? The general public is not very intelligent.

I'm not affiliated with the kennel or its owners - I just strongly believe that such harsh judgements should not be made by reading and picking on someone's website!

I love my silky that I got from Kingcreek ... Full gamet done at the vets - totally healthy! I don't need to say anything else, as i risk giving you all the satisfaction of picking on my words and being nasty!

Just my 2 cents ...

BRAVO!!! Well said! These people are intolerable. I have never seen such a website that appears to be run by a bunch of spiteful people. I'm sure I'll receive some kind of tongue lashing from this group for agreeing with your assessment!

Reese1 09-19-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkylove (Post 3242681)
I think you should all either get jobs, or stop reading Kingcreek Kennel's website up and down everyday. Don't you all have better things to do?

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?

How about this: Website is catered towards simple people - they use simple words and phrases to explain things. Its kinda like doctors using normal talk instead of using medical terminonlogy with patients ... Get it?? The general public is not very intelligent.

I'm not affiliated with the kennel or its owners - I just strongly believe that such harsh judgements should not be made by reading and picking on someone's website!

I love my silky that I got from Kingcreek ... Full gamet done at the vets - totally healthy! I don't need to say anything else, as i risk giving you all the satisfaction of picking on my words and being nasty!

Just my 2 cents ...



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Originally Posted by Moggymadd (Post 3274671)
BRAVO!!! Well said! These people are intolerable. I have never seen such a website that appears to be run by a bunch of spiteful people. I'm sure I'll receive some kind of tongue lashing from this group for agreeing with your assessment!

Many buyers find puppies by the internet, many never go to visit a breeder in person and have puppies shipped, I would not do this personally, but many do. So all we can do is point out what are considered "red flags" that should make a buyer question a breeder and look elsewhere.
The red flags here are:
breed several breeds
breed mixed breeds (mutts) :thumbdown:thumbdown
advertise as teacups :thumbdown:thumbdown

So we don't have to visit a breeder in person or even live in the state or country in which they reside in order to have an informed opinion on potential problems with a breeder or their practices.
I hope your puppies stay healthy, we are very passionate about Yorkies here and would never want anyone to have problems. That is why so many try and inform and educate before they purchase to minimize this.

Lorraine 09-19-2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Reese1 (Post 3274716)
Many buyers find puppies by the internet, many never go to visit a breeder in person and have puppies shipped, I would not do this personally, but many do. So all we can do is point out what are considered "red flags" that should make a buyer question a breeder and look elsewhere.
The red flags here are:
breed several breeds
breed mixed breeds (mutts) :thumbdown:thumbdown
advertise as teacups :thumbdown:thumbdown

So we don't have to visit a breeder in person or even live in the state or country in which they reside in order to have an informed opinion on potential problems with a breeder or their practices.
I hope your puppies stay healthy, we are very passionate about Yorkies here and would never want anyone to have problems. That is why so many try and inform and educate before they purchase to minimize this.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Rhetts_mama 09-19-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkylove http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
I think you should all either get jobs, or stop reading Kingcreek Kennel's website up and down everyday. Don't you all have better things to do?

Also, whats with you all being from the states and judging this Canadian kennel? The strangest thing i have ever heard of - a bunch of Yorkie/Silky owners bashing a kennel's website ... and the actual kennel being a few thousand miles away!?

How about this: Website is catered towards simple people - they use simple words and phrases to explain things. Its kinda like doctors using normal talk instead of using medical terminonlogy with patients ... Get it?? The general public is not very intelligent.


I'm not affiliated with the kennel or its owners - I just strongly believe that such harsh judgements should not be made by reading and picking on someone's website!

I love my silky that I got from Kingcreek ... Full gamet done at the vets - totally healthy! I don't need to say anything else, as i risk giving you all the satisfaction of picking on my words and being nasty!

Just my 2 cents ...

And that is EXACTLY why sites like this exist. To educate the buyer so that when they run across bad breeding practices and BS claims they'll know it and run in the other direction as fast as they can.

Beamers Mom 09-19-2010 09:12 AM

Wow! Did you read their code of ethics?

No. 3:
"We will breed only for the purpose of improving the quality of the breed. We will try to conscientiously plan each litter of puppies for sale, selecting a stud dog and bitch to be mated based on their pedigrees, conformation and temperment."

So why do they breed "designer dogs" - crosses that cannot be registered. Reputable breeders do not breed "crosses" and prevent "happy mistakes" if they breed more than one breed.

8. Puppies offered for sale are to be registered, or have limited registration with the Canadian Kennel Club, or are crosses which cannot be registered.

BamaFan121s 09-19-2010 10:02 AM

Does anyone really even pay attention to anything said by a new member who joins for the sole purpose of defending a questionable breeder and telling the rest of us how unintelligent we are? I don't think so. :rolleyes:

gemy 09-19-2010 01:44 PM

But isn't it lovely they keep bumping the thread for newbees to read?

Beamers Mom 09-19-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3275097)
But isn't it lovely they keep bumping the thread for newbees to read?


yes, I love it:D

bellemarie 09-20-2010 04:56 AM

right, i think a nerve has been hit somewhere here! i am impressed by the fact that so many different owners of kingcreek puppies ALL managed to find this thread and post fabulous things about the kennel... yet all of us idiots have managed to stay away from them.
also, i noticed that even though they are clearly delibrately breeding and selling tinies of each breed, they tell people to stay away from 'teacups' because "It is a pup that is smaller than most. We breeders are keeping up with you public to provide smaller dogs. The only problem with that is, if a pup will be under 3lb as an adult it will likely have health issues for ever. Stay away from really tiny ones. They could be the runts of the litter." surley with that being the cse it would be better not to breed purse size shih tzus?
sorry to tell ya'll this kingcreek kennels fans, but if a kennels site has soo many contradictions on their own breeding ethics etc, it IS a red flag!


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