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flutterby 01-08-2008 10:25 AM
Question about AKC/CKC registrations re: litters/puppies
 
Okay.. This has been really bothering me... It's like puppy mill capitol around here and I just read the classifieds to see the poor puppies being pushed out by this one breeder in particular who IS a definite BYB and may possibly be a puppy mill (always has chihuahuas, pugs, and mix breeders). I've heard her place is disgusting... She's putting her toes in boarding too! :eek: But what scares me is that she takes unspayed/unneutered *SMALL* dogs in as well... You can all assume what that will lead to! She's trying to trade off a blue chihuahua pup for a yorkie... :mad: Hopefully she never finds one!!!

On the other side of the chihuahua sale, she's also selling them with ConKC papers.. The parents "have" AKC and CKC papers, but she's only registering the puppies CKC. Wouldn't you think that she bought the parents as pets to pay a cheaper price and can obviously only offer CKC papers...? Just would like opinions...

I wish I could save these poor babies instead of this woman just worried about the almighty $$$... I know I should stop looking but its so hard.. :(

BamaFan121s 01-08-2008 11:51 AM
I would not trust someone like that or anything they "claim" to have...registration papers or otherwise. I can honestly say, from what you have described...w/ me it would never get far enough to have to try to find out the truth about the registration.:thumbdown

Breny 01-08-2008 11:56 AM
What I have found in my area are that alot of breeders are using CKC because they have been in trouble with AKC and /or know that they can't pass AKC visits. Very scary!!! So what are they hiding???

sweetie3 01-08-2008 12:16 PM
I Am Totally New To This So Bare With Me.how Can A Person Get In Trouble With The Akc And Could A Perspective Buyer Find Out Why?
And Is Ckc Always Bad?i Mean Can You Get A Healthy Cute Pup That Could Be Ckc?

And While Looking For My Boy I Saw A Lot Of Akc Pups That Were Not Worth The Paper Written On.

I Love All Yorkies But Some Looked So Bad I Just Wondered How Could They Breed Them.

Breny 01-08-2008 12:27 PM
AKC can do random house visits and alot of breeders "doing things not to standard" could be shut down and so to avoid this they will leave AKC and register CKC.

I really don't know much about CKC, but I'm most sure there are wonderful yorkies registered this way!!!

I only chose AKC because thats what I wanted my dogs to be and I'm not hiding anything so I welcome them to check my home and breeding practices.

But some......wouldn't welcome that.

sweetie3 01-08-2008 01:03 PM
oh thanks
 
My Sister And Cousin Have Ckc Yorkies Girl And Boy And They Are Beautiful.the Girl Is Blue And Gold And 51/2lbs Great Personality Adorable And The Boy Is Tan And Silver 4lbs Adorable And Well Mannered. I Did Personally Want Akc.but To Each His Own And Mine Cost Twice As Much As Theirs And He Is Medium Gold And Now At Well Over A Year Is Starting To Turn Dark Dark Blue So I Am Pleased.

Breny 01-08-2008 01:46 PM
Your welcome. Yes I don't think anyone would say that CKC dogs were bad because they are CKC dogs. Or even unregistered ones.

BamaFan121s 01-08-2008 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetie3 (Post 1657224)
how Can A Person Get In Trouble With The Akc And Could A Perspective Buyer Find Out Why?
They can get in trouble with them for many reasons...not meeting their requirements, falsifying paperwork, etc. I think there is a link at the top of this section where you can check those who have been in trouble w/ them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetie3 (Post 1657224)
And Is Ckc Always Bad?
No

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetie3 (Post 1657224)
i Mean Can You Get A Healthy Cute Pup That Could Be Ckc?
Yes

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetie3 (Post 1657224)
And While Looking For My Boy I Saw A Lot Of Akc Pups That Were Not Worth The Paper Written On.
Probably so...with ANY registry, you can get good and bad breeders that are not honest regarding the paperwork and the dogs they are breeding.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetie3 (Post 1657224)
I Love All Yorkies But Some Looked So Bad I Just Wondered How Could They Breed Them.
Good question...you are not alone in wondering this.:)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Breny (Post 1657244)
AKC can do random house visits and alot of breeders "doing things not to standard" could be shut down and so to avoid this they will leave AKC and register CKC.
ANY registry can do random house visits. I actually reported a miller once that was keeping about 50 dogs in a chicken house. She had AKC and CKC dogs. I reported her to both. A CKC inspector showed up and took action before the AKC one. :)

Breny 01-08-2008 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1657446)
aNY registry can do random house visits. I actually reported a miller once that was keeping about 50 dogs in a chicken house. She had AKC and CKC dogs. I reported her to both. A CKC inspector showed up and took action before the AKC one. :)
Thats good to know, see I even learned something today

sweetie3 01-10-2008 01:48 AM
Thank You
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1657446)
They can get in trouble with them for many reasons...not meeting their requirements, falsifying paperwork, etc. I think there is a link at the top of this section where you can check those who have been in trouble w/ them.


No


Yes


Probably so...with ANY registry, you can get good and bad breeders that are not honest regarding the paperwork and the dogs they are breeding.



Good question...you are not alone in wondering this.:)



ANY registry can do random house visits. I actually reported a miller once that was keeping about 50 dogs in a chicken house. She had AKC and CKC dogs. I reported her to both. A CKC inspector showed up and took action before the AKC one. :)
YOU ANSWERED EACH OF MY QUESTIONS.YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGABLE :cool:


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