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feminvstr 07-02-2005 07:46 PM

when docking tails I am always 3-5 days depending on their weights. An easy rule of thumb is shave the back of the tail where the brown ends and clip off 1/4-1/2" above the brown. I am not sure what others do but it works for me.

Laura 07-02-2005 07:48 PM

Thanks, and I agree with you completely. If my baby was terribly ill, I wouldn't think of coming to my computer. I would be in the car on the cell to the vet. I have beat my vet to the office a couple of times.

I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all the advice you have given me, and I'm sorry if I hurt anyones feelings, I would never do that on purpose. Maybe I take things to personally sometimes.

lily 07-02-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jer_lin
How many new mommys are ready to do this ever 2 hours nigh and day for a couple of weeks ?
jerry

Hi jerry We know how that feels and man it's no fun! lily

lily 07-02-2005 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wnalegria
I think that most of us old timers will tell you that if you do the whole thing right you might break even once in a while but most of the time- you are in the red. The first timer may have the luck and come out making a profit on that first litter- but I doubt that they spent any time picking out the stud- or they used thier own even if it was not a good match they used him to cut costs. What kind of prenatal care did the bitch have. Did they keep the puppies until 9 weeks of age at least and place two vaccinations and wormings in the puppies. Did you have the kids vet checked- did you send them home with a health certificate- did you give a warranty that covers the puppy for at least a year.

Have you ever turned down the client that you talked to on the phone/ or who is at your door with the money in hand. I have done it 4 times in the last 30 days- because it was not the right home for the puppy. The new owner want to be was not listening to a word I had to say and you could tell that they wanted the puppy because he was priced much lower then other puppies of the age and quality being advertised- but they did not want him for himself. They wanted a bargain that they were going to make fit into thier mold. Could I have used the money you bet. The right home will come along and I can sleep at night because I did the right thing for my baby boy. If he stays here and grows old with me so be it. How many of you have gave a puppy to a organization like " Make a wish" no strings just gave the puppy to someone who was ill just to make them happy- and wrote off any profit. There have been years that I did not breed a litter of pupies- there have been years that I have breed 2 and gave all but the ones that I wanted to a sick or terminally ill person- I will get the yorkies back if the adopting folks decide not to keep them. Thought I would share that with you for the person from this forum who left me the message on my website calling me a puppymill. They feel that I do not want others to breed- I just want to breed myself and make all that money. I just want you to use your head when you breed put time, thought and effort into the process.


Wnalegria

Break even!! What's that? I never break even! lily

yorkiegal719 07-03-2005 06:21 AM

Wnalegria, don't stop putting information in! There are questions that need to be answered before they are needed or asked. Even if they are not to be applied for years it's always good to know. I think the hard part for beginning breeder is that they are afraid to ask, because of some breeders, not necessarily here, who always seem to be downtalking to you if you ask questions. They make you feel like you shouldn't breed because you don't know what your doing, well they all started somewhere, and if they didn't have help how did they do it? My main peeve is that you really should strive for a better puppy than you have parents, right? But then how come breeders put a spay/neuter clause on their puppies, aren't they good enough? Better than the parents they bred? I personally would but the same clause in because I wouldn't want my puppies being used for a breeding situation all the time. But I think that by screening your new parents you would know what they intend to do with the puppy. I love listening to all the good info here from all the long time breeders, just excuse us if we ask dumb questions, we just need to know. But I do agree, ask before you need to...

YorkieRose 07-03-2005 07:40 AM

Laura
 
Laura
Vets ask the breeder because they do not know the standard for each breed..plus, many breeders like a Yorkie tail a bit longer or shorter. I remove the last third, but have had pups born with very short tails or long one and had to adjust my third.
Haven't you seen Yorkies with a Rottie docking..no tail left at all..just a stub?
It is best if the vet asks to be safe..they can not put it back on. LOL

You have to ask questions, how can you learn? I learn stuff all the time from other breeders here. I have alot of experince and hands on learning, but do not always know technical terms to relay..Kimberly and a few others do this so well. I will talk to you as if you were sitting at my kitchen table, others are more like an instructor..both ways are needed and both ways work.
The only thing that does not work, is a person leaving or not posting when they have so much to add.
Best wishes

Laura 07-03-2005 08:39 AM

Thanks Pat! You are always kind and patient. I appreciate all the advice you have given me. I do feel like I need a lot of reassurance that I am doing the right thing for Zowie and my babies. :hug:

Wnalegria, don't stop helping on my account. I need all the help I can get. I certainly don't think I know everything. You know, the more I learn - the more I know I don't know anything! ;)

Jane 07-04-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr
the daunting task of breeding and breeding correctly is never ending, a good breeder will always breed for quality not quanity.

A new breeder has to consider the life of her mom. Am I breeding for selfish reasons or am I serious about learning how to acheive the perfect pup? Is my darling little companion a strong sound canidate in every way for breeding or it doesnt matter mentality, I think she is cute, she will have cute babies?

For the first time breeder, the excitement of their first breeding for example all goes well whelping (lucky her/him) then what, you wake up to find a puppy death. The "I just wanted to breed her once so I could have another puppy" or "my friends all wanted one" or "I paid so much for her it would be nice to get the money back" theory is out the door.

this is a dated article but nonetheless its a rude awakening of what can happen before and after eventhough it seems you have a healthy litter, can you identify or relate to any of this? http://www.dogstuff.info/diseases_of...d_lanting.html

:dog: Thanks for this article. You say that it is 'dated' but it's full of information that is good to know. :thumbup:

Wrenee4 07-04-2005 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Laura
Ok, I'll tell you this - when I took the pups in (I was still worried about how small my little one was and wether I should wait, he was still 3 oz) the vet checked and said he seemed fine. Then she asked me how long I wanted their tails? I was a little surprised she didn't know. Am I too hard on my vet?

Yorkies can have thier tails cut pretty short or a little longer. The vet most likely just wanting to know what you wanted. One of our females has the shorter tail and I would have to say when the pups come I'm going to for sure ask them to cut a little longer!

PrairieGirl 07-24-2005 09:07 AM

Hello, new here and LOVE this site!
 
I'm Lexy's mom and we're in Oklahoma. I've only been on for 20 minutes or so but already know I love this site. Info is easy to find and I don't hear anyone jumping down someone else's throat. That's refreshing. :D

Lexy is 3 years old (5#) and expecting her 2nd litter in 2 weeks. First litter she had only ONE. :rolleyes: I kept telling everyone it was a false pregnancy - she just didn't grow at all. But, this time she's definitely growing. This will/should be an average litter. We're excited.

Her first baby weighed 5 1/2 oz at birth - that was a biiig boy! He grew so fast I was sure he was going to be a 10 pounder. But, guess it was just the fact that he got all the nourishment from her because he stopped at about 6#.

I know what you mean about selling them. Had 2 $1000 offers on Scooter but instead we gave him to one of our sons and his family - 5 miles away. :thumbup:

We're having a bit of a problem with some too soft stools. I am planning to switch her to boiled chicken breast and her kibble along with the vitamins she already takes. Does this sound right. Any other suggestions?

Thanks from the Oklahoma PrairieGirl

speck103 07-24-2005 09:24 AM

Great topic
 
I am really glad to see so much information for a person like me who knows nothing. I am interested in breeding my male yorkie because I would like to have one of his pups. I have heard many bad things about this though. Is it true that if he is breed once, his temperment will change forever? What are some sources that I could go to for research and information? :confused:

Marie 07-24-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrairieGirl
I'm Lexy's mom and we're in Oklahoma. I've only been on for 20 minutes or so but already know I love this site. Info is easy to find and I don't hear anyone jumping down someone else's throat. That's refreshing. :D

Lexy is 3 years old (5#) and expecting her 2nd litter in 2 weeks. First litter she had only ONE. :rolleyes: I kept telling everyone it was a false pregnancy - she just didn't grow at all. But, this time she's definitely growing. This will/should be an average litter. We're excited.

Her first baby weighed 5 1/2 oz at birth - that was a biiig boy! He grew so fast I was sure he was going to be a 10 pounder. But, guess it was just the fact that he got all the nourishment from her because he stopped at about 6#.

I know what you mean about selling them. Had 2 $1000 offers on Scooter but instead we gave him to one of our sons and his family - 5 miles away. :thumbup:

We're having a bit of a problem with some too soft stools. I am planning to switch her to boiled chicken breast and her kibble along with the vitamins she already takes. Does this sound right. Any other suggestions?

Thanks from the Oklahoma PrairieGirl

Welcome to YT PrairieGirl. Congratulations in your soon to be born litter of puppies. Im not a breeder so im not able to help much. I just wanted to say that if she has soft stool will be best to contact your vet. YT has great breeders that will be able to give you great advise. I will love to see pics and hear stories of your little girl. Good luck and please keep us posted.

Laura 07-24-2005 06:45 PM

My little mommie had diarrhea for 4 days straight about 2 weeks after the pups. I took her to the vet who had me stop feeding her for 24 hours. Then she gave me a prescription diet of chicken and rice - 4 cans. She was fine as soon as I quit feeding her. Next stool was semi solid, one after was fine.

You might want to take her in to make sure she doesn't have worms or anything like that. The vet did do a stool check - it was fine. Good luck! My pups are 9 weeks old today - it has been so much fun. They are absolutely adorable!

Lady of Yorkies 07-26-2005 02:40 AM

I have questions too. But I am not an inexperienced breeder. I have bred Poodles and Cocker Spaniels. I was not in the mind frame I am in now and I am very worried about doing the wrong thing. To me Yorkies seem more fragile. I am on more than one Yorkie forum and most of the time when I ask a question I feel like I am being yelled at. There is no way I am going to let the person I feel is yelling at me know that I feel like they are yelling at me.

It is easy to misinterpet what is being said when you can't see the other persons face. And if you say the wrong thing because you think this person is yelling at you they might clam up just when they really had something you need.

wnalegria 07-26-2005 05:45 AM

male
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by speck103
I am really glad to see so much information for a person like me who knows nothing. I am interested in breeding my male yorkie because I would like to have one of his pups. I have heard many bad things about this though. Is it true that if he is breed once, his temperment will change forever? What are some sources that I could go to for research and information? :confused:

Each boy is different. But you can open Pandora's box when you decide to breed them. A male who has been housetrained mey decide to lift /hike his leg on everything and anything in the house once used for breeding. A male who has been used for breeding may decide to fight with other males in the household that were once his friends. Each fella reacts to being used for breeding in a unique way. There is no book that you can read or no way of knowing what his reaction will be and behavior changes.

You must be prepared to love his just as much after you use him for breeding as before. What hurts my heart is when a loved boy will loose his home because of changes that his owner can not accept. He did not ask to be used for breeding his owner chose that for him.

I use piddle pads in the house-but place a block of wood on several of them so the guys have something to hike the legs on works well they can have piddle contests. My pee pots who still want to piddle on things wear a belly band.


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