Why are dogs 'banned' in so many places in the USA?
 

I wish the US was more accepting of dogs. I took my Yorkie when he was a 4 month old baby into Barnes and Noble bookstore. He was in his basket and I was carrying the basket (I did not want him to be alone) I was going to see if they had a grooming book. The manager came up to me and said " you can't bring a dog in here we serve coffee". How ridiculous is that? I can't see why that makes any difference at all. Its not like the dog was going to poop or pee and if he did he was in the basket. I can see why a store would not want badly supervised and badly behaved dogs walking around in there but why not a small (tiny) dog who is in its owners arms at all times and is not making a noise or disturbing anyone?
I love my dog so much, he is not only loved but necessary for my well being (brings me my meds, wakes me up to take them, and calms my anxiety attacks) I have not had him certified by anyone, I just don't go anywhere that might have a problem with a tiny dog like that I hate confrontation and I avoid it with a passion, also because I think those types of places don't deserve my business. I do need to take him on planes when I go for overnight trips but he needs to be on my lap, which has been fine, up till the last part of my last trip.

If anybody can help me understand what is so desperately dirty about dogs that they can't go into a place that sells food, or even just coffee. I think if the rules/laws were less draconian people would not feel inclined to call their dogs something they are not. In France and England dogs are welcome in far more establishments and we don't see people there dying of dog poisoning!:animal-pa

I wish pets were more accepted places as well. I just moved out of NYC a couple of months ago and there pets can go anywhere there is not food almost, now where I lived, very few places allow dogs. It does frustrate me because I feel like I can't take my dogs out too much because I might need to run into a place that doesn't allow them.

As far as places that allow food, honestly I am glad they don't allow dogs. Most of us keep our Yorkies very clean- but I know many people with larger dogs say they hardly ever wash them, some people never bathe their dogs. I wouldn't want those kinds of dogs near my food and It would be hard to say "clean dogs only allowed!" LOL

I too wish our little dogs were allowed in more places but do understand it's not usually the store's fault but is due to Health Dept. regulations. I find more privately owned, instead of big corporate stores are usually more accepting of our yorkies. Also, I can see that if a store allows only small dogs, the large dog owners could scream discrimination and be rightfully upset.

And that is why I love total concealment purse carriers! It's the only way to take your pup to many places here in the States.

I wish there were more places & events to take my yorkie to. The few local places that do allow ZoE are the ones I chose to spend most of my money.

I just don't understand what is so dirty about dogs, and , even if they are a little unwashed, how to their 'germs' get on the food in places that sell food. It is over protection to the max, totally unnecessary. I had a lovely Sunday lunch in Oxfordshire yesterday. There were five dogs with their families in the pub, a springer spaniel, a fox terrier, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, a small rough haired terrier and a golden lab. I heard no barking, so no complaining, no smells and no dogs bothering anybody. We have a lot to learn in the States.

My honest opinion is that dogs aren't allowed in many places because

1) There are way too many irresponsible pet owners who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious, and sometimes dangerous dogs out in public.


2) Our society is so sue happy that these "health" regulations serve to protect the owners of business establishments and even the dog owners.

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I guess that is true, but its sad. And sad for our best friends. I wish there were more than a few dog friendly places. Or that establishments would say dogs were allowed as long as they were carried?? Then the big scary dogs would be excluded. I know that would not be perfect but a bit better.......

I was just thinking this the other day me and my daughter was out with our furbaby and we became a bit hungry and I couldn't think of one inviting place to go in nyc. Even tho I'm on a busy street in park slope Brooklyn and every other person is walking there dog. I even Google dog friendly resturants . Still no luck we ended up going thru McDonald's drive thru... I really dislike McDonald's too!

I agree, that's the reason we can't take our babies a lot of places. I just wish there were laws that prevent the many irresponsible parents who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious children out in public. And while I can't take my dogs into the restaurant for fear that they are a cleanliness hazard, it's okay for said irresponsible parents to pop the kid out of the carrier and change the diaper on the table. Been there, saw that, got up and left.

My Rosie is cleaner than some humans. That is all I am saying! :p

I wash my stinka all the time especially since the weather Is nicer. I call him stinka tho LOL.. he does have his dog breath that's why stinka is his nick name

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Maryland is trying to pass it so you can take your dog into a restaurant that has outside dining. Yay!

I was at Lowes one day and was told by the garden center cashier that I shouldn't go inside because dogs were not allowed. I've had mine in there at times...I could understand this rule as I could see some burly construction guys bringing in their labs or other big dogs. Sometimes a dog will have an accident so I understand the philosophy behind the rule.

And I guess it also depends on who is working.

OMG thank you! Our yorkies are much cleaner and more well behaved than some children, LOL!!! Family Guy: Brian Flips Out On Baby | whoisthemonkey.com

In CA pretty much any place that has an outdoor seating area will allow dogs. Now if it's a confined space, that is different, but if there are tables outside, no one has ever had a problem with Uni being there. There is also a chain restaurant called Lazy Dog Cafe, they encourage you to bring your dogs, have a doggy menu (nothing I would ever feed Uni though fyi), and a potty space. I believe they are opening up more locations.

While I have no problem with a dog being in most stores, I would not be so happy to be around a bigger dog.
Another problem in having our animals with us all the time is with people who are allergic. An example my dtr is allergic to cats. When she had her senior pics made, they were allowed to bring something with them for props. One girl brought her cat. I was so worried that her senior pics would be ruined with red, watery eyes. By the time her pics were done, the reaction was setting in. Luckily she had gotten there a good bit earlier than the other girl. I wrote the company and let them know what I thought about it.
There are people who are allergic to dogs (I know it is the dander). Is it fair to people to put them in the positon to have to be around a dog when they go to the store? I can understand if they go into a petstore, but a grocery store or a restruant? If they allow dogs where does it stop? Cats. mice or even snakes? sorry if you have snakes, can not stand them, :eek:

We have the same problems here in UK where dogs are considered a unpalatable disease in many places.

It is usually down to the law of the land and not the facility owner and if it is the law of the land then the size of the dog is never considered.

We also have to accept that there are many "Dog Owners" out there as opposed to "Dog Lovers" and in my books there is a massive difference.

There is also a difference between a "Dog Lover" and a "Responsible Dog Lover" as not all "Dog Lovers" act in a responsible manner.

In the district I live we have a major problem with irresponsible dog people who love their pets so much they walk them every day. During the walk the dog poops either on the side-walk or on the grass area and the owner never picks up just leaving it there for children or people to walk in.

This is the sort of action which gives us all a really bad name so anybody who is a "Dog Lover" in the best possible way is automatically looked upon as a potential problem in a public place along with all those so called "Dog Owners.

The local authorities then introduce laws to protect the public and I agree the law is intended to be in the best interest of the people but we don't have to agree with the law we only have to obey it and this is often the problem which upsets us.

The sad part of this is that introducing the law is never enough, the law has to be enforced and that is another story.

Hi,IM from England,and trust me lately,ive been seeing no dog signs every where,However im allowed to take my dogs into my local pub and i think this is due to Morons raising staffies the wrong way, and not cleaning up after their dogs,However when i was in Belgium dogs had their own seat at the tables.Personally my dogs are more clean than some humans i know.:animal-pa:animal-pa:animal-pa

I just came back to Florida from the UK, where I saw many dogs inside pubs and resaturants enjoying the day with their family. Never heard of anyone suffering from dog poisoning!