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Old 07-02-2013, 06:58 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by yorkie-gems View Post
They are most certainly outcross. Mom is double registered... but imported from the US. Dad is CKC, and from here in Canada.
Just in case you're wondering... since I'm sure the question will come up about my ethics too; ALL of our pups have, and will always be adopted out with strict spay/neuter contracts. Not one single pup of ours has ever been sold with breeding rights, nor with reg papers. I purposely exclude the paperwork, to help discourage any breeding from our lines.
and to fully understand what caused this. Obviously there isn't a lot of information out there, and I know this now.
Of course he'll be staying with us, to continue to monitor him.
I will continue to offer periodical updates on his progress, and note any issues he might have... to help others that have blue born pups in the future.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...rn-yorkie.html

On another posting thread of yours I linked the above link and directed you specifically to certain posts, and in particular to the last page.

Your understanding of what caused this, can be elaborated upon as follows in post number 50 or so on the above link.

Dd = carrier. If mated with a normal DD dog, half of the progeny will be carriers, and half will be normal. If mated with another carrier, 1/4 of the progeny will be normal (DD), 1/2 of the progeny will be carriers (Dd), and 1/4 of the progeny will be blue (dd). In a breeding program, all carriers should be neutered or spayed.

Now if you read the genetic information on that link I posted you will see that your breeding pair at least both of the two would have had to be carriers.
So if I understand your breeding records correctly your bitch had had four litters before all "normal" ie no blue borns, so she must be a Dd that mated with DD's until this last litter where in she was bred by a carrier of that gene. For if the sire was DD as well, they simply could not have a blue born pup....

So if I am doing the genetic math correctly, all litter members of your bitch especially if there are any out there breeding, and the breeders of your bitch and sire need to be notified that she carries the gene, and therefore your bitches parents must both be carriers. So that spans a whole lot of notifications. And I am aware you have sold all previous pups on a spay and neuter contract, and hopefully have some method to see if this neutering actually happened.

Now let us get on to the code of ethics for Breeder members of CKC. It states III. General Responsibilities

The following are a set of general responsibilities that shall be understood and accepted by all CKC member breeders:

(a) Every breeder shall be conversant with and fully adhere to the By-laws, rules, regulations, policies and procedures of CKC, as well as the requirements of the Animal Pedigree Act (APA).

(b) All litters and all dogs in each litter shall be registered with the CKC. Litter registrations shall be forwarded to CKC as soon as is reasonably possible after the birth of the dogs. Upon the sale of each dog from any litter, breeders shall transfer ownership and register each dog in the name of the purchaser in accordance with stated requirements.

So if indeed you are a breeder member of Canadian Kennel Club, you had no right to withhold the paperwork from the purchasers.

I do hope that you notify widely through their lineage and you can only hope the breeders of the parents of your bitch and sire, will also do their due diligence in terms of notifications.
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