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Old 01-05-2005, 01:58 PM   #21
marianna
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
I enjoy hearding others opinons and take no offence. I am not opposed to tail docking because it can be done painlessly on a new born. How do I know there is no pain.. the pup does not cry, it is wiggling and acting fussy because they are being held and away from mom for a few minutes. The proceduce takes less then 30 seconds..and the tail is numbed. I can not do ear cropping..it is painful and a messy healing process..nothing I would want to be involved with myself.

May I ask if newborn male humans are circumcised in your country? I sort of equate the two. Yorkie tails were first removed for a functional reason, it has continued long after because of tradition. Same with humans.

Interesting parallell to circumcision! It is very rare in Sweden, I personally do not know anyone who is circumcised here, I checked it up on the Internet and according to Swedish healthservice about 2000-3000 males get circumcised per year, almost all of whom get it because of religious beliefs. Male circumcision (is this how it's spelled?) is done at hospitals, but there is a large number of females getting a procedure done for religious purposes which in english is reffered to as mutilation, but has a different name in swedish, and on the contrary to curcomcision this is illegal and therefore done in the dark. This is done in refugee groups of varying ethnicity, sudan and somalia are some of the countries. The most common way of getting it done in Sweden is that a number of families get together and make arrangements for a special woman to fly in from their country of origin, or they'll just ship them off for "vacation" to these countries and most of the girls get lifelong healthissues if they do not die or get severly ill just by the procedure itself. it is a large issue in Sweden now.. But there has been the equivalent of "bills" to make malecircumcision illegal in any other purpose than medical..


there is a few people in sweden importing bird/hunting dogs with cropped tails apparently, some people who have been active in the particular breed have had painful injuries to their dog's tails while hunting, but some other breeders from the same breeds feel that this is due to the fact that the tail was not recognized for so long that even dogs who were seen as good to breed on got genes with bad "tails". i don't know which one is true. but it is interesting to compare.

i don't see docking of tails as "as" bad as cropping the ears, i don't like neither, but i've read that cropping the ears is extremely painful and can take a long time to heal for some dogs does anyone know more about this? as in declawing cats i just can't support the arguments. i think it's even worse, trying to control/decide upon their instincts and natural functions.

sorry if this is irrelevant to the forum, i just think it's extremely interesting to who've been able to get a totally different view on the same things.

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