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SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-05-2005, 07:48 PM

Laura~

I think I would like your son if we met. I always have some "cause" I am battling! Sounds like he has several. I think he takes after you a little. Tell him good luck.

I really enjoy your posts. I always learn something and I can tell you are open minded and love to learn. You are quick to take things in and you aren't afraid to express an opposing point of view. I also appreciate that you back your opinions up with factual citations from good sources ....like the YTCA.

I was simply pointing out to people who may not be aware of it, that the YTCA or the AKC is not "yorkie law". These private organizations really only exists to govern the way show people and show breeders operate. They are not controlling for the typical pet breeder or pet owner who usually cares more absolute temperament than conformation.

I know that change can be made and I hope I am planting some "seeds" for change with some of my posts here. If people really think and open their minds, great things can happen. It has been over 20 years since the Biewers were started and they are not recognized as a breed by the AKC and those in know say they never will be.

I wish the AKC would follow the lead of so many other countries and outlaw tail docking, but so far, it is not close to happening.

Brittany~

It is not possible to fully eliminate the Bb gene from all yorkies in the world. There are too many because of the mere fact that yorkies were developed by mixing all different types and colors of terrriers as well as the maltese (there is controversy about the maltese component) and the breed is less than 200 years old.

Show breeders do not stop breeding the sires and dams that produce the bb. In the past they simply destroyed the "evidence" so to speak, but today they sell the "off color" yorkies as pets. And, yes, by definition, they are "rare" and so they can sometimes go for more money because of their unique color. I do not know why this offends people so. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that in a free market place.

Some people care about the breed standard to the point of ridiculousness IMO, and some don't care about it to the other extreme. I think there is a happy medium where you can take some of the characteristics that make sense, like a happy, lively gait, or have a purpose, like the bright, inquisitive eys, and strive for those, but not worry about the nonconsequential ones, like color.

06-05-2005, 07:48 PM	#44
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Laura~ I think I would like your son if we met. I always have some "cause" I am battling! Sounds like he has several. I think he takes after you a little. Tell him good luck. I really enjoy your posts. I always learn something and I can tell you are open minded and love to learn. You are quick to take things in and you aren't afraid to express an opposing point of view. I also appreciate that you back your opinions up with factual citations from good sources ....like the YTCA. I was simply pointing out to people who may not be aware of it, that the YTCA or the AKC is not "yorkie law". These private organizations really only exists to govern the way show people and show breeders operate. They are not controlling for the typical pet breeder or pet owner who usually cares more absolute temperament than conformation. I know that change can be made and I hope I am planting some "seeds" for change with some of my posts here. If people really think and open their minds, great things can happen. It has been over 20 years since the Biewers were started and they are not recognized as a breed by the AKC and those in know say they never will be. I wish the AKC would follow the lead of so many other countries and outlaw tail docking, but so far, it is not close to happening. Brittany~ It is not possible to fully eliminate the Bb gene from all yorkies in the world. There are too many because of the mere fact that yorkies were developed by mixing all different types and colors of terrriers as well as the maltese (there is controversy about the maltese component) and the breed is less than 200 years old. Show breeders do not stop breeding the sires and dams that produce the bb. In the past they simply destroyed the "evidence" so to speak, but today they sell the "off color" yorkies as pets. And, yes, by definition, they are "rare" and so they can sometimes go for more money because of their unique color. I do not know why this offends people so. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that in a free market place. Some people care about the breed standard to the point of ridiculousness IMO, and some don't care about it to the other extreme. I think there is a happy medium where you can take some of the characteristics that make sense, like a happy, lively gait, or have a purpose, like the bright, inquisitive eys, and strive for those, but not worry about the nonconsequential ones, like color.