YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community - View Single Post

admin · 01-12-2007, 09:18 AM

We have gotten numerous complaints of ytsirk27 not shipping goods when payments have already been made. We've only gotten complaints since the last week of December. However, it seems ytsirk27 is not responding to such complaints even though she said she would address them. We are sorry anyone has ordered from her in the past that has not received their goods. YorkieTalk can not vouch for any particular seller, and we do advise caution when purchasing any goods from any stores online.

We have rarely gotten any complaints from YorkieTalk sellers before, which we are thankful for. The vast majority of storeowners on YorkieTalk are honest, reliable, dependable, and do deliver goods that are paid for, as you can see from the many product and store reviews that members post about.

It is just plain wrong to take money and not ship items that are paid for. It is illegal and may be considered mail fraud.

Here is more information on mail fraud (from Wikipedia):

Mail fraud refers to any scheme which attempts to unlawfully obtain money or valuables in which the postal system is used at any point in the commission of a criminal offence. Mail fraud is a legal concept in the United States Code which provides for enhanced penalty of any criminally fraudulent activity if it is determined that the activity involved using the United States Postal Service. As in the case of wire fraud, this statute is often used as a basis for a separate federal prosecution of what would otherwise have been only a violation of a state law. The concept is irrelevant and largely non-existent in countries with non-federal legal systems: the activities listed below are likely to be crimes, but the fact that they are carried out by mail makes no difference to which authority may prosecute or the penalties which may be imposed.

on-delivery or misrepresentation of mail-order merchandise

This scheme exists in various forms; order an item, make payment, receive nothing is the simplest form of mail fraud. Other variants include misleading descriptions (advertisement says an expensive camera is available by mail-order, when the item arrives it turns out to be a toy camera), deliberate sale of defective merchandise or even stolen merchandise. High-ticket items such as computer hardware are particularly tempting targets for scam artists.

The same scams now exist online; non-delivery of auction or mail-order merchandise advertised on Internet sites is a common complaint.

Another variant involves shipping merchandise which was never ordered, obtaining a signature on delivery (or even COD), demanding payment for the items on the basis that they were signed for at destination.

Promotions selling services or data delivered entirely online are also particularly high-risk; if the "send a money order to Texas, we'll make a few phone calls and tell you what your employment references have really been saying behind your back" refuses to deliver as advertised, a fraud may be much more difficult to prove than if the seller is obliged to ship a parcel which requires a signature at destination.

Internet fraud and online auction fraud

Internet fraud or wire fraud schemes may also qualify as mail fraud if the mails are being used at any point in the scheme, including a request that a money order be sent to pay for non-existent or undelivered auction merchandise. Many of these schemes are merely variants on the fraudulent mail-order scams in which the merchandise is never delivered as described or delivered at all.

Online schemes claiming that "a hot female escort will give you access to her entire pornography collection on some Internet site if you send a money order to a drop box in Barrie", if payment is accepted by postal money order and the product never received, would also qualify. The original solicitation is made online, the supposed product claims to be delivered online, but use of the mails at any point (such as to receive money or negotiable instruments) could easily qualify such a scheme as mail fraud.

If you want to file a complaint with the Postal Service, here is the claim form:

http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors...dComplaint.htm

You can also report fraud at:

http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/

If you paid via Paypal, please contact your credit card company or Paypal and dispute the transaction as soon as possible. You may still be able to get your money back.

ytsirk27 will have ONE WEEK to address all these complaints or she will be banned from YorkieTalk forever. We simply can not let this situation go any longer. We do take these kind of complaints seriously, we want our YorkieTalk community to be honest and fair.

01-12-2007, 09:18 AM	#73
admin *Administrator* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,246 Blog Entries: 3	We have gotten numerous complaints of ytsirk27 not shipping goods when payments have already been made. We've only gotten complaints since the last week of December. However, it seems ytsirk27 is not responding to such complaints even though she said she would address them. We are sorry anyone has ordered from her in the past that has not received their goods. YorkieTalk can not vouch for any particular seller, and we do advise caution when purchasing any goods from any stores online. We have rarely gotten any complaints from YorkieTalk sellers before, which we are thankful for. The vast majority of storeowners on YorkieTalk are honest, reliable, dependable, and do deliver goods that are paid for, as you can see from the many product and store reviews that members post about. It is just plain wrong to take money and not ship items that are paid for. It is illegal and may be considered mail fraud. Here is more information on mail fraud (from Wikipedia): Mail fraud refers to any scheme which attempts to unlawfully obtain money or valuables in which the postal system is used at any point in the commission of a criminal offence. Mail fraud is a legal concept in the United States Code which provides for enhanced penalty of any criminally fraudulent activity if it is determined that the activity involved using the United States Postal Service. As in the case of wire fraud, this statute is often used as a basis for a separate federal prosecution of what would otherwise have been only a violation of a state law. The concept is irrelevant and largely non-existent in countries with non-federal legal systems: the activities listed below are likely to be crimes, but the fact that they are carried out by mail makes no difference to which authority may prosecute or the penalties which may be imposed. on-delivery or misrepresentation of mail-order merchandise This scheme exists in various forms; order an item, make payment, receive nothing is the simplest form of mail fraud. Other variants include misleading descriptions (advertisement says an expensive camera is available by mail-order, when the item arrives it turns out to be a toy camera), deliberate sale of defective merchandise or even stolen merchandise. High-ticket items such as computer hardware are particularly tempting targets for scam artists. The same scams now exist online; non-delivery of auction or mail-order merchandise advertised on Internet sites is a common complaint. Another variant involves shipping merchandise which was never ordered, obtaining a signature on delivery (or even COD), demanding payment for the items on the basis that they were signed for at destination. Promotions selling services or data delivered entirely online are also particularly high-risk; if the "send a money order to Texas, we'll make a few phone calls and tell you what your employment references have really been saying behind your back" refuses to deliver as advertised, a fraud may be much more difficult to prove than if the seller is obliged to ship a parcel which requires a signature at destination. Internet fraud and online auction fraud Internet fraud or wire fraud schemes may also qualify as mail fraud if the mails are being used at any point in the scheme, including a request that a money order be sent to pay for non-existent or undelivered auction merchandise. Many of these schemes are merely variants on the fraudulent mail-order scams in which the merchandise is never delivered as described or delivered at all. Online schemes claiming that "a hot female escort will give you access to her entire pornography collection on some Internet site if you send a money order to a drop box in Barrie", if payment is accepted by postal money order and the product never received, would also qualify. The original solicitation is made online, the supposed product claims to be delivered online, but use of the mails at any point (such as to receive money or negotiable instruments) could easily qualify such a scheme as mail fraud. If you want to file a complaint with the Postal Service, here is the claim form: http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors...dComplaint.htm You can also report fraud at: http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/ If you paid via Paypal, please contact your credit card company or Paypal and dispute the transaction as soon as possible. You may still be able to get your money back. ytsirk27 will have ONE WEEK to address all these complaints or she will be banned from YorkieTalk forever. We simply can not let this situation go any longer. We do take these kind of complaints seriously, we want our YorkieTalk community to be honest and fair. Last edited by admin; 01-12-2007 at 09:25 AM.