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Originally Posted by FlDebra I feel like I am beating my head against a wall here.... of course the Broken-hair scotch terrier was a mix!!! -- isn't that what we are talking about?
You said, "they were first know as scotch terriers but then bred with other breeds to make up the yorkie." and I was trying to tell you the mix that wound up as the Yorkie and the mix that wound up the scotch terrier are one and the same!! They were being shown as broken hair Scotch Terriers and someone said, "Hey, let's rename them to Yorkshire Terriers" because they have really been improved in Yorkshire.
I think in another post here I quoted the whole passage from the AKC site which lists the breeds that went in to the Broken hair Scotch Terrier (AKA Yorkshire Terrier). Here it is again from the AKC site: "The Yorkshire Terrier traces to the Waterside Terrier, a small longish-coated dog, bluish-gray in color, weighing between 6 and 20 pounds (most commonly 10 pounds). The Waterside Terrier was a breed formed by the crossing of the old rough-coated Black-and-Tan English Terrier (common in the Manchester area) and the Paisley and Clydesdale Terriers. It was brought to Yorkshire by weavers who migrated from Scotland to England in the mid-19th century.
The Yorkshire Terrier made its first appearance at a bench show in England in 1861 as a "broken-haired Scotch Terrier". It became known as a Yorkshire Terrier in 1870 when, after the Westmoreland show, Angus Sutherland reported in The Field magazine that "they ought no longer be called Scotch Terriers, but Yorkshire Terriers for having been so improved there."
Maybe we are not debating -- maybe we are not being clear or understanding each other???????? |
its crossed wires i tried to edit on my reply but it wouldnt let me, i went to put i didnt mean to say scotch terriers were then bred with other breeds to make the yorkie, the scotch terrier was renamed the yorkie.