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Old 12-03-2006, 01:16 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
The Biewers and the partis are basically the same dog, just from two different lines. But the parti gene exists in both lines ad that is what has caused the parti coloring.


YES!!! Germany has just kept records and set forth standards for 20 years now. They all have only YORKIE heritage.


I just wanted to add to this post just a bit... Although the Biewers and Partis both carry the same piebald gene, they are not the same dog. The difference is in the standards. (as well as bloodlines originating in Germany) The Partis do not have any set standard, while the Biewer does.

As Kathy has pointed out already, the Biewer standards are the same as the Yorkshire Terrier standards, with the exception of the colors and the tail. Also, regarding their coats, faces, size, etc., I have seen the same differences in the Biewers as in the traditional Yorkies. Some have cottony coats, some have silk... some have smaller faces, some have longer and larger ones, some are 2 and 3 lbs, and some are 10, 11, and up. Some have ears that stand up, and some are floppy... There are good and bad examples of the breed coming over from Germany... and also irresponsible breeding here in the states are contributing to a whole variety of problems being bred into the lines. Just like the irresponsible breeding of our beloved traditional Yorkies. Unfortunately, greedy people do not care about the betterment of ANY breed.

In my opinion, when and if either the Parti and/or the Biewer gets a chance to compete in AKC Confirmation shows -- I don't see them being judged against the traditional Yorkies until they go into Best of Group. There's a long way to go before we get to this point -- and many "close-minded" people fighting against it who haven't done any "open-minded" research on these beautiful colored dogs!
No matter how they got here, Biewer's are certainly here. And, for the most part, I think that the yorkie show people are starting to accept that fact. But what we DO NOT want is for the two breeds to be shown together or for the Biewers or parti's to carry the Yorkshire name.

Many of us are very willing to help you in any way we can start to get records, etc. in order so you can apply to AKC to be shown in the Misc. class and go for full recognition. But my question to you would be, how are you going to handle the differences between parti's and Biewers? And from that group you need to weed out those that are cross breeding. Are you going to be able to unite all breeders of blue/white yorkies so together you can go forward as one?
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