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Old 11-21-2006, 01:37 AM   #32
yorkieK9trainer
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I've been encouraged for many different reasons to switch over to the Jewish faith. It ain't happening. Just my personal beliefs. But I can agree w/ many of their practises and find the religion interesting. Same here.

"using credible sources is the only real way to justify statements and opinions"

What you fail to realize is WHO justifies just WHAT is credible and what is not??

For example, many of the dogs produced from the Lackland Air Force Base-many of whom are responsible for today's security when it comes to the usage of K-9's-are being produced and "Certified" by them.
The issue w/ this is that the trainers that have produced these dogs are becoming increasingly worse over time. And THEY'RE the ones that should be held to one of the highest standards in the business because of the responsibility that they produce, correct? Well, there isn't ANY standardized testing, nor proper government or structured organization that these dogs are to get certified by. If Lackland says they're good enough, they're good enough. And that is proveable to not be the case-there are many other facilities that while they don't have the financial backing that Lackland does, produce better quality dogs in the field. And they don't make it to the top, often because the financial backing isn't there and the name isn't attached, even though they are more capable in the field.
My point is, that over time these trainers are being watered down at this facility in particular...just one example of many. So while we think that they're improving or they're the guys to go to, that's not the case.
Much like our Yorkies of the past-"They don't make 'em like they used to!"-is all too true. Some feel we're going in the right direction w/ the breed and others think we're not. (smaller size, completely different coat, even a different temperment...) "Back in the day" is when Lackland achieved the name it has today from their trainers of that time. As time goes by, the cycle of trainers they're producing has been greatly watered down by letting trainers in and pass that really shouldn't and it becomes a snowball effect...it's late, am I making sense on this? lol *yawn*
Trainers are the same way, and so are practises.
Just because a trainers practises and results aren't "news worthy" (i.e. you don't see them in a book) doesn't mean that they aren't better or just as good.
So, I'd recommend that you continue reading your books and doing your thing and realize that you cannot foist your "bibles" on myself in particular and while this doesn't make me bad in any way, it simply is what it is.
I don't agree w/ your statements completely, I feel they are unfounded and inexperienced in many ways and while NOT putting your dog in a crate IS a possibility-I do this often myself w/ many of my dogs-I will still continue to use them as tools as needed.
Back to the original point- Crates are a WONDERFUL utensil in the safety and correcting of unwanted behaviours. Further more, they often stop problems before they begin, simply by exposure alone. And if something doesn't come natural to your dog (i.e housebreaking is a new concept to your puppy-why can't he go where and when his body is telling him to go?) you use TRAINING METHODS to teach him the desired behaviour. It can and has been done time and time again-even in the worst cases. You just have to know what you're doing and if you don't...seek a professional in your area. There's no reason (unless your dog has an actual mental disorder), NONE, why you can't crate train your dog if needed or desired and any trainer that tells you otherwise is saying so, because they're not capable and that's fine. You've gotta know when you're over your head and pass that client over to the appropriate people.
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