Should we start a thread on what we've used that hasn't worked so far. Sign me up for most of what Avon has to offer even their answer to laser, botox,(didn't work for me). I was prepared to try some stuff from HSN made with Lotus flowers, talked myself out of that one. I've used an OTC chemical peel, that has been Okay. Now, here is the good one, the face shocker, has anyone else tried it?