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Originally Posted by maxdog  I have no vested interest in either side of this discussion. I have never bought a yorkie from Debbie and I do not know the OP. What I am reading about Deb’s history warms my heart. It sounds like she has provided many members here with healthy, beautiful furbabies and that is fantastic. This especially hits home with me because we purchased Max & Sasha from a “greeder”. They were in it only for the money and still are. They breed dogs with known genetic issues that end up, in good scenarios, cost the new owners thousands of dollars and in the worst case scenarios end up costing the life of the dog. I wish there was some type of regulation that would only allow people like Deb to breed but we don’t live in that perfect world. Seeing all the members come to the defense of Deb tells me that she is one of the good ones.
But there are 2 sides to every story and I can also see the OP’s side here. If I had given someone $3k and two years ago had still not rec’d what I paid for I would use every avenue available to me to get either my money or my product. I do not think this was a bad forum to post her issue. This is the “Breeder, Vet and Groomer reviews” forum. If a breeder is taking thousands of dollars and not providing what she was paid for I am thankful that someone is posting that here. I have one question for the people who are saying the OP should not have posted this here: If this post were about someone other than Deb, about someone that no one knew, no one had any history with, would you still be upset about being told that this person is taking money and not providing the puppies? After reading this thread I don’t think anyone, not even the OP, doubts Deb’s ability in the art of breeding. It is the business side of the breeding, and like it or not there is a business side, that Deb is currently lacking in.
I agree it is sad that it had to come to this. I truly hope whatever financial issues Deb is having are overcome. I am sure there are extenuating circumstances that we are not aware of and, after reading the testimonials about what a good person she is, my heart bleeds for her because I know what it is like to not be able to pay the bills. But I don’t blame the OP for posting here before taking legal action, e.g., contacting a lawyer who will charge hundreds of dollars just to write a letter. If this did go to court, the only winner is the lawyer. I know this will be a very unpopular statement but the OP did not damage Deb’s reputation. Deb did that herself. She took someone’s money, made a promise and nearly 2 years later has yet to fulfill her promise. But by her response it looks like she is standing up and taking ownership of that and will do what needs to be done to make this right. I hope both sides can amicably settle this and I wish both sides the best. |
I am not vested in Deb, never had any dealings with her, however I did read I believe on her website a couple of years ago when she moved to Oregon or was in the process of moving. Deb laid it all out for all to see.
2 years ago a new member came here looking for help on whelping her females first litter, the female was in trouble, Deb must have sent the OP a PM then called the new member and walked her through the whelping, as it turned out the one or two puppies died but the momma lived. Who does that, who calls a stranger and spends hours on the phone, that alone speaks volume of Deb. magicgenie has had past dealings with Deb, yes 2 years waiting for a puppy or money back is a long time but, you do not come on this forum and smear her name to get Debs attention possibly causing her to loose a lot of business. magicgenie is a breeder herself, she knows the consequences of defacing a breeder and that was the reason for her airing out her money grievance here on this forum instead of taking Deb to court. Hurt Deb's business and magicgenie will have to wait longer to get paid back, kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face.