[tammy8833]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

If a bitch ties with two males, in order to register the litter, you must DNA all involved - the bitch, both males and ALL of the pups. It isn't cheap. The other options are:

1) Spay and neuter any pups resulting from the dual breeding and sell them as non registered pets.

2) Be dishonest and lie on the registration forms. This is a bad idea because if you pick the wrong male for the registration process and someone DNA's a pup from this breeding - even generations later the DNA will tell the truth and the breeder can and most likely will be suspended from AKC. All pups resulting from this breeding will have their registrations suspended. Not a pleasant surprise for anyone involved.

Several years ago my AKC Champion Lollie was bred to a 13 year old multi champion AKC male, Trip. Because of his age, Trip had to be certified by a vet to have a viable sperm, which he did. However, the stud owner wasn't comfortable that the breeding was successful, so we bred her to another male. The resulting litter produced three female pups.

After spending a considerable amount of $$ having Lollie and the pups DNA's (both sires already had DNA on file with AKC) we determined that the second male was the sire of all three pups. If memory seerves me, there were more fees involved in the registration process for the litter/pups because it was a dual breeding.

The only reason I bred Lollie was to preserve the genetic line. It was never my intent to profit from the breeding, so I wound up with the expense of all of the genetic testing. The ONLY satisfaction for me was knowing that I did the right thing. Ultimately two of the pups earned their championships and the third was spayed and placed in a loving pet home.

My mentors - both of whom are AKC Breeders of Merit - only breed their bitches a limited number of times and then retire them. They are spayed and placed with loving homes to live out the rest of their lives as pets. Males on the other hand must be DNA'd once they have sired "X" number of litters, I believe it is five, but to be on the safe side check AKC rules and regulations.

Second question if I registered only one male if I felt like only one took..due to coloring....and registered as limited akc...would there be any question on Dna with a limited registration? All sold on spay and neuter contracts.

Thanks again