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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88  I do want to just say I'm not sticking up for or against tail docking it's not something I necessarily agree with but I don't agree with the standards of many dogs. I do believe it would be a rare thing to find a reputable breeder who didn't didn't dock tails not that there is not one out there but just it might be hard unless you are on a waiting list and you ask ahead or time for no tail docking. I was trying to ask other questions to the op to try and figure out if this was a reputable breeder or not because a few things didn't sound right but they just got ignored I'm sure for many reasons. But at the end of the day color is up for argument docking tails and dew claws are up for argument. Other things like how far back does this breeder know the lines of the dog back if it's not several several generations back then she doesn't know whether some serious genetic issues run in the lines which reputable breeders do, or did she have the things she can health checked, or is she breeding females under 5 pounds, or does she have a good health guarantee, or does she have a spay and neuter contract? These are things that are not in argument that a reputable breeder does and by answering these questions it might get you a bit closer to your answer. The reason there is a standard though is to make sure yorkies look like yorkies because there are so many bad breeders out there breeding yorkies and creating yorkies that don't even look like yorkies and that is really damaging the breed. Puppy mills don't care about the standard or even quality they simply care about quantity and money. I do worry about you not really knowing about puppy mills by your comment that there one of the only ones who cares about the standard because I'm pretty sure you could ask owners of several puppy mills what the standard is and they would have no idea. The snobs being another one of the people you say only care about the standard bothered me badly maybe to a point I got to defensive but it was a hurtful comment. I am not a snob I am simply a lover or yorkies standard or not and I certainly don't have a perfect yorkie in the standards eyes. I speak out about reputable breeders so much for one reason because my baby came from a puppy mill and has had to suffer terrible issues and pain because they didn't care about health so I try to push people probably to hard in the direction of a reputable breeder because I don't want someone else to have to watch there dog like that and if we stop buying from puppy mills and non reputable breeders they will eventually have to go out of business. These dogs this breed is in my heart. I have a big love for them and I just want what is best for them and for the breeders who aren't doing right by them to not make money. |
I appreciate your input & huge amount of knowledge. I was pretty overwhelmed by the amount of responses and all the conflicting info & conversations, so I never got to anwsering everyone's follow-up questions. She had a spay & neuter contract that required the contact info for the vet we would use, and introduced me to her vet who does spay/neutering for a discount for her pups since he's her vet for all her adults & she refers the owners of her pups to him. She informed me that that vet can do tail docking when they're under already for the spaying/neutering if wanted (if I do end up getting the pup, I wouldn't want it done for the record. She will just be my pet anyway and if the breeder never did it, I certainly wouldn't get it done by choice afterwards. I figure there's no point. I see the point in breeders doing it before pups are sold, but it's a pointless thing to do IMO if she's already a pet in my possession). She offered everything else I would look for in a breeder. A 5 year health guarantee, pedigree, lifetime breeder support, and even included a free year of puppy health insurance for vet visits (she registers & pays for insurance for all her pups for 1 year to make the first year of ownership easier on her customers). These pups' dam was 5th generation of ones she has bred, her retired adult had even more generations with her. And she says she knows the pedigrees & histories of the generations before they were with her. as well
Like I said, I have a lot of experience as my family bred bulldogs for a long time. So I know about things like neuter contracts/pedigrees/health guarantees/etc. It was just the breed specific Yorkie things I was fairly uneducated on. All of her general breeding practices went above & beyond my standards. However, I had no clue about whether or not a reputable breeder breeds this coloring or leaves tails undocked.