[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by gemy

This is a nuanced and multi-faceted discussion. First all dogs of ALLBREEDS have genetic issues, laying back somewhere in their lines.


And if a breeder disclosed to me what-ever the genetic issue was I would be happy they did so. It is up to me as the purchaser to decide if I want to invest in this puppy, to request certain additional testing, or to pass. All lines if you can go back far enough will have some health issues in them.


You seem to think that the health history is a clear book. It quite frankly is not! The health registries have only been up for about 25 or so years, and all breeders do NOT post their results. It has been for many many years word of mouth sharing amongst breeders.


Breeders make a decision to breed based upon the whole dog. Weighing the faults and attributes of each dog and each mating pair.


In my breed we have two genetic tests - true genetic tests. I will disclose if my puppy is a carrier for either one, but as a pet dog never to be bred it truly means nothing. If I sell a dog as a breeding dog, then it means something to the breeder. And just so you know a carrier is NOT affected by the disease but is a genetic carrier of the disease.


HD and ED and LP all fall into the polygenetic recessive arena. And there are known studies that show proper rearing and exercise can affect both the severity and even the clinical manifestation of all these diseases. And for most of that it is a joint responsibility of the breeder and the future owner!


The world is not black n white, not in dog breeding, horse breeding, or even taxes.


I have posted before about the three strike rule. Many breeders abide by this.

I know nothing about the health registries but whether a breeder tells you the dog there breeding has health issues doesn't mean there reputable or even good because if they were they would not breed a dog with an issue and that is black and white. Breeding a dog with a genetic issue is like playing Russian roulette and if a breeder has worked hard for there lines they don't want to do that. If someone is willing to risk LP when buying a puppy from a breeder who bred a dog with LP I sure as heck hope there pockets are deep and there heart is stone.