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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly Again, Linda, I am certain you, me and all the others on YT are none of us is truly qualified to use our original thoughts to comment on the infectious/contagious properties or behavior of this virus in any way as we none of us have any direct knowledge of it. So we each choose to parrot the sources' words and terms we prefer and that's fine but how you would question whether my words are my original thoughts on the Ebola virus' behavior is still puzzling. We all echo/reflect terms we've heard or read about things we've never had personal experience with - even you - yet I've never questioned whether your thoughts on Ebola were "original" - I know better, links or not. Only time will tell which sources we've all chosen to use are right or wrong about it.
So many keep questioning why the PPE's are used, here is some more parroting of other's expertise on them. Various experts say the PPE's are critical for healthcare workers handling sick patients and those who immediately clean up fresh, moist/warm waste after the them, to prevent the virus getting into the staff's bodies.
Other uses of PPE's by Ebola cleaning crews cleaning transport vehicles, wards, homes long after patients were removed from them - would be twofold - first to save those people from the unlikely chance that a glob of infected, congealed blood, stool or vomit, etc., had managed to stay warm and/or moist in some crevice or area of moisture or warmth and had somehow managed to retain enough of a still-living viral load sufficient to infect. Then some direct unprotected touch, cleaning tool or spray dislodged it onto a nearby cleaner's exposed mucous membranes or cut skin before the disinfectant solution and fogger had time to kill it. So they wear PPE's for the rarest of exceptions. According to WHO(link posted above), even in a West African Ebola center where doctors tested 33 surfaces , no virus or even its DNA remained on any of the surfaces other than a doctor's bloody surgical gloves and a bloody site where a surgical needle had been inserted.
The second reason PPE's are used is purely legal so there is no question about every possible safety measure being taken to protect the crew - but also to legally protect the employer, the CDC, the city, a hospital who didn't properly diagnose, etc., should one of the crew possibly contract Ebola from some other direct contact in the community he's unaware of, forgets about or just fails to mention. With all workers in full CDC-approved, fully operational PPE's with appropriate suit-up/suit-off precautions taken, it can't be proved with any legal certainty that he got Ebola from cleaning up after a sick patient or their waste due to lack of adequate infectious-disease protective measures.
Turns out the Spanish assistant nurse with Ebola who initially said she used all necessary precautions in dealing with her Ebola contacts, which caused many reporters to question whether this virus is even more infectious than previously thought, is reportedly now saying she might have touched her face after removing Ebola-contaminated gear. It's a deadly disease.
So we are cool with agreeing to disagree, right? I still love you silly, lady, and will always appreciate your kind thoughts and words during tough times, both on YT and personally. Your work with dogs and help on YT are invaluable to Yorkie-lovers. |
Jeanie, this has nothing to do with you or me agreeing or disagreeing. I did not set out questioning you about whether your comments were your thoughts or someone else's thoughts/writings.
What I did, was comment about your stating that Ebola is a wimpy virus (outside of the body or whatever wording you used). YOU came back and said those were not your thoughts, but someone else's. Why you keep harping on this is beyond me. This is the LAST time I am going to explain it to you.
I have no ax to grind with you and totally don't get this. at. all. Your thoughts on this virus are indeed different than mine but so what? Many of us have differing opinions all of the time.
Personally, if I had read that Ebola was a wimpy virus, I would not post it in a way that people would think it was my thoughts if it indeed was someone else's....I would probably say something along the line of this: So and so said that Ebola is wimpy and I would have posted a link for reference. That comment really concerns me as I have stated over and over and over on this thread; because the response to this virus is not telling me that it is a wimpy virus. You can say what you want about why they are taking the precautions they are and I can say why I think they are. I am not here to act like an expert on this virus. I am posting my thoughts about it.
And, as for your first sentence....if I don't have the knowledge, I am not going to comment (usually). I see a lot of it on YT...people googling and parroting what they read and often it is incorrect. I did do it once on this thread and was corrected and assumed responsibility for it. Nope...I am not an expert in this virus and am only voicing my observations.