[navillusc]

I use mini scunchies from 'Dollar' stores like Family Dollar and Dollar General. They come in packages of 200-300 for reasonable cost. I use 2 scunchies together usually. They are quite stretchy and these guys topknots need about 4 wraps. The top wrap/loops can be pushed backward to keep the topknot out of the face. Also, the topknot can be more of a 'ponytail' placed further back and/or additional scunchies can be used further down of the topknot to keep it going backward. An advantage is that the mini scunchies are reusable and washable, and slide off easily when you grab all loops and slide off the topknot, so when it gets messy, the topknot can be easily redone. Plus, no breakage, and if they scratch in just the right spot, the mini scunchies can just slide off...again, without breakage...and just be put back on. Works for us for everyday wear.