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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom  What really disturbs me about this and things like this being posted in this thread is that it seems/feels like you're lumping ALL animals rights/welfare people into the same big lump. As if every single one of them is a cookie cutter of the one next to them, as if we are of one mind.
Is that the way the we should also think of breeders? That one breeder is the exact same as a puppy mill breeder and so on? I wonder how the breeders would feel if we lumped them into one sloppy category and started posting things about what "breeders" beliefs are, at large. Do you realize how horrible that would appear, how outrageous? It's no different than how outrageous it is to lump us all together as if we're a bunch paint-throwing animal activists who desire an end to this and that.
Please, I ask that you don't think of me or anyone posting here in that manner bc I'm quite sure we have our own thoughts. This "Item #10" has never been and never will be my goal. It feels like some people are seeing an enemy in places where there is none here. |
You have made some good points. These kinds of things are happening all over YorkieTalk, not only this thread. I think emotions are high now. I'm hoping more intelligent discussion will ensue once emotions settle down.
When I was learning to teach Philosophy for Children, the first thing we taught were All statements. We might not use those words, yet the meaning was still the same. I teach my students to try to avoid those kinds of statement, whether in life or in their multiple choice questions.
Ann is right that we may have beliefs similar to animal welfare, but that doesn't mean we believe all of the tenets. The same is true for animal rights. Not everyone who believes in either animal rights or welfare is an extremist. I believe it is the extremists who hurt the causes.
I have noticed over the years a disdain for breeders by some. I understand why people are very upset about people who are not breeding for the betterment of the breed, the puppy mills, etc. Again, I said some, but it's still upsetting to me.
I don't understand the reason for the disdain. I deeply admire reputable breeders who pour their hearts into producing well socialized, healthy, happy, babies with good conformation.
I am inferring when I say that people are getting hurt on this thread. I would love to see people really discuss things. It doesn't need to be on the open forum, but I believe there are good people here who have a lot to offer each other.
Ann, I'm sure #10 is not your goal, and I would doubt anyone would group you with a group of extremists. Your heart fills with such love for animals, and you are also quite loving with people. I'd love to see people come together so that we can understand these different viewpoints. It's okay to disagree, but perhaps we can broaden our minds a bit.