[gemy]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I hear you in terms of having strong views and sticking to them, however, what we've been seeing here are views being shoved very rudely at times down people's throats -- and that's not helping anyone at all. It's one thing to have strong views and be direct -- there is NOTHING wrong with that. It's another thing to have strong views and be rude and badgering at the same time. That's what needs to stop on that front. I think that's what the posters with a less direct posting style are looking for...at least that's what we've heard and seen.

Now, on the flip side of things...what I'm hearing form the more direct posters is "please don't preach to me about my posting style". What the more direct posters are asking is that if one of their posts is seen as inappropriate, to please *just* report it, rather than telling another person how to post or that their post is rude. We're hearing that loud and clear. I think it's a fair request. That said, it's well within the rules to state an opinion such as "I think this thread is bordering on badgering this member and I'd like to see that tone change" -- a member is allowed to state that sort of opinion, whether we like it or not. But the request has been heard, very clearly, that people who find things offensive to please use the report icon.

I want to comment on another aspect of this subject that we've heard much about behind the scenes and that is when members are VERY clearly juuuuust riding the cusp of our rules here -- where they're just on the edge...not quite breaking rules, but very clearly getting as close as they intentionally can. We know when you're doing it, and you know when you're doing it. Going forward, if a member is clearly riding that edge -- the post will just be deleted, period, gone....and any/all educational info you shared will have to be rewritten. And if that sort of cusp-riding behavior accumulates - suspensions or bans will follow.

As for "why this thread" instead of private PMs - it's because this is a community problem, and the community deserves to know it's being addressed. And the members of the community deserve to have a voice about what's been happening and what they've been seeing...no matter where you land on the issues. When there is an outcry for action, the community needs to know we've heard it and are addressing it. It's a public matter, therefore, we want to be transparent.

RE the bolded item. IMO if someone posts a comment like that or similar to that, then we tend to get the back and forth - No I wasn't badgering or hectoring, but just stating my very strong opinion. I do strongly feel just hit the *report* post and then let the mods take care of it - one way or the other.

On another note; pointing out something obvious - that the measure of the strength or passion of your belief is not directly proportional to the strength of your voice sic ... here written word. Folks who post what some may refer to with a gentle style or namby pamby way, in no way means that their views are not deeply held.

We will never completely know any-ones' full story, no matter if they are a long time poster/member, or this is their first post. We don't know their backgrounds, experience levels (although we do infer that from the posters question to this forum)...we are even correct most of the time but not all of the time.

In terms of Breeder THreads I have copied what is the stickey placed in that forum here: As these threads often devolve especially with a first time breeder.
Hi everyone! I just wanted to post a reminder about why this section exists (or tell you for those that do not understand). It is for breeders (experienced and not) to share their experiences, learn from each other, help new members, and to have a place to talk about the lessons, joys, pain, heartache, and excitement of breeding yorkies! It is also for discussion on breeders and if you are not a breeder, you can also post questions for breeders here.

Please be respectful. This is a place for questions and experiences and if you do not like the thread or the topic that has been asked/started do not respond. It is quite that simple.

If you make a post that is off-topic it WILL be deleted. If you make a reply that is rude or a personal attack, you will be suspended and/or banned. The rules of Yorkietalk are just the same here, please remember them and if you have not reviewed them in awhile here is the link

What-ever your personal belief is about the breeding of Yorkies, and what challenges the breed has, the deed is often done. If you keep in mind the above guidelines when speaking to a newbie breeder maybe the newbies will stick around long enough to learn something that could really aid in their gals pregnancy delivery etc.