Thanks for the encouragement Kathy
I think I made a discovery today. First of all, I have begun to notice, that while he is in the X-PEN, although he has piddled and pooped on the floor, it has only been a few times, and he is a very small pup, less than two pounds at 17 weeks, so he must be going
somewhere to piddle (poop of course I notice and it only happened twice so far.) So the only place he could possibly go is the PP. His bed is dry, and usually so is the floor. Where is he going?? I KNOW he has to go more than once or twice a day! But he's doing it when I'm not there, or watching him, or physically putting him on the PP turf.
So when I put him on the turf, he jumps off immediately, so I thought he was not using it, but today, I discovered something. I was at the kitchen sink washing the dishes and happened to be watching him out of the corner of my eye and he went to piddle on the PP. Of course I made a big deal of it as if he had just one the Nobel prize, the Irish Sweepstakes and been elected President of the US (LOL)

He was thrilled!!
I encouraged him to go potty again, as I stood behind the sink, and he did -and made poop this time. Both times I came running with Praise galore and several treats. He loved it.
So I noticed that it is not the
PP that he is avoiding-It's
ME!!! Because I was the one who almost fell over on him when I was bending over the XPEN when he was on the PP. I think he doesn't want to go potty when I am near the PP. Or at least I THINK that's whats going on.
When we came home tonight from dinner out, there was some urine on the floor, but I just wiped it up calmly with Natures Miracle and did not say a negative word. (I never do!). I think he had a great time tonight and he got lots of treats. So I think I got a better handle on what is happening here.
What do you all think????