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Originally Posted by ironmike86 I like Boxers but don't know to much on there smarts? I just read they are average. I grew up with American Bulldogs and Hound Dogs. I can pretty much train any dog Basics. Hound Dogs are very stubborn. I would get a American Bulldog but where I live Im not allowed to have any type of "Bulldog" for insurance purposes. That applies to Rottweilers and Akitas also. Those would be my top 3 also. So unless I move which isn't happening yet. I'm getting another breed. I'm not worried about Coyote's I made my place pretty secure. And if they did get onto my property they would simply be done.I can handle a Boxer energy. Just a Border Collie is really high energy. I see them at the dog park they will go for 2,3,10 hrs. I see Boxers also not so much and the ones there are pretty dumb. But I contribute that to the Owner.  I train Moki with strict discipline. Like if he were a big dog. I come in the house he won't bark he will sit and wait till I give him the okay to come to me. He wont eat till I say its okay. Won't go out the door till I say Okay.Sounds cruel but thats how you keep your dogs from getting separation anxiety. A Yokie will run you all over and they will become spoiled yappers. But I also give him cuddle time also JME | What about an English Mastiff? Not sure of their average life span though.
Bouviers I like as well.
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