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Old 06-19-2013, 11:24 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer View Post
No, I have never and will never had my Biewers tested with the MARS test. Why would I? Do they have the Biewer Terrier back on the list of dogs again? I thought they took it off after the lawsuit. The information that group of "ladys" submitted for that so called breed was so tainted I thought they had pulled it. It was such a small collection of dogs used it could hardly be called much of a sample.

I do not have Biewer Terriers.. I have/had Biewer Yorkshire Terriers.. I do not breed Biewer to Biewer.. I have learned my lesson! That line of yorkies is far to in bred, to many genetic problems, and still you hear people shouting from the roof tops BREED BIEWER TO BIEWER ONLY!!! MY GRACIOUS!!! What are we trying to prove??? What is the goal??? What can possibly be that important??? Is it REALLY that important to SAY both of my dogs can trace back to Mr Biewers original YORKIE!! I mean really?? so what if my dog has bad digestion, seizures, teeth, liver ???

I understand ALL yorkies have these same issues.. BUT, when you have such a limited gene pool to begin with.. where do you go when you know these problem exist??? How long can you stick your head in the sand before you can no longer breath?? Is if fair to bring the puppies down with you?

I breed back to Yorkies, I also breed to Parti yorkies.. I am ALWAYS honest..

Yes, I believe some of my dogs were directly related to the dogs used in the group these "lady's" submitted for the Biewer Terrier data.. if they actually submitted samples from the dogs they said they did, which of course I question because I question everything that these people say and do.

I no longer have any of those Biewers as I have had to spay/ neuter all of my dogs because of genetic issues that I did not want to pass on to future generations.

Diana
Hi Diana,

Yes, Biewer Terriers are back on Wisdom Panel's list of breeds detected:

Biewer Terrier | Wisdom Panel

I wasn't aware of the lawsuit, so if you have links to information about that I'd be interested in reading it--I like collecting as much information as possible before I form an opinion. I believe that the Wisdom Panel has about 100 Biewers in its DNA collection--that's in comparison with about 300 standard color Yorkshire Terriers. I'm just throwing that out as interesting information. Clearly, they need more samples of all breeds to add to their database to improve their accuracy.

I do respect your honesty, I appreciate the problems that arise when working with a limited gene pool, and I understand why you bred Biewers to Yorkies in order to broaden the gene pool. And I'm sorry that you had to spay/neuter your breeding stock because it had accumulated too many unhealthy traits. I didn't come here to judge or condemn, I just came here to learn and also to provide what information I know. Thanks for helping me out!
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