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Originally Posted by carmen in nj  LOL, believe me girl sometimes I have to re write and re write to the point of loosing track to be able to try to help and not sound of being judmental in my post. but one very good friend of mine that is also a breeder and a first responder thought me a very valuable lesson, "I don't have to agree or support a person to help them in a moment of need". and
I thought about it and realized that if helping is what I want to do, then judging is out, offer them the help at their time of need and then try to guide them and teach them, but nobody likes to be judge in a moment of need. I see both sides of the coin, if this is a pet forum, why the breeders section, but also understand the NEED for it, since I am not in charge and would never assume I can tell Admistration how to run their forum, is up to the person in charge to make that decision. but PLEASE if the breeder section is here to stay let's try to help the poor dogs. realized that by the time the person comes with a pregnant bitch is almost too late, and the best we can do is try to help the dog.
that way we can help and keep loving the dogs that everone says they do.
I know is hard but I would really feel awful if a dog dies because theowner was bashed and not helped.
I am a bit sick with the flu, so please take that into consideration if I don't make sense. 
hugs,
Carmen in nj |
Carmen sick or not you speak honestly and with great love in your heart.
I suppose I want life simpler for me. This is a Pet Forum and at least if we don`t have the Breeders Forum, we can sidestep, not be aware of all these first time breeders.
And yes Carmen I am too involved with the health of the dogs. But and it a huge But in my mind and heart. How if I give this or that advice, will I be eventually when all is said and done, supporting the promotion of shall I say less than ideal breedings.
Do you really think that Sally who was breed to another Breed, or Sally who is so disparate from the standard, will l be neutered after this litter...
And btw most have never tested anything, nor have even considered researching the health of their dogs lineage.
For me I should always stay away from the breeders forum for a number of reasons, first is that I am not a Toy breeder. But mostly is that it pains to hear of so many nonchalant folks get involved with breeding.
And I know you have first value criteria for the dogs. But I have first value criteria for the breed, and what all this indiscriminate breeding does to our breed.