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Originally Posted by gemy Ann most of the time when you post these missives I understand a little of where you are coming from.
But not now, and not today.
The one thread I have been involved in over the past two days, I thought most posted quite laid backly ... if that is even a word.
Of course right now, I have minimal time on YT as I; as a responsible breeder and active member of my club, am putting together a Judging Seminar for Canadian Judges about the BRT..
I have also evaluated two litters of pups .. one Yorkies and one BRT's.
I am a responsible and knowledgeable breeder; it is very hard for me to read all the stories here; which is why I post sparingly. And of course I am a large breed breeder and not a toy breeder; and it makes a big difference. For example High Blood Pressure during labor not so common in Toys as far as I know.
But I will continue to advise and countenance a spay of a female who was inadvertently bred; especially when we are talking about a novice breeder.
In my opinion, and yes it is JUST my opinion; the cards are stacked against this female dog, and the future of any puppies very un-certain.
Will this "breeder" guarantee the health of the puppies for any significant amount of time? Will this breeder test the puppies for temperament, do the proper neuro stimulation for growth of their brain and ultimate socialization? Will this breeder put their money on the line, when puppies that they caused to be birthed show up with devastating health issues? Will this breeder be on board to support their puppy owners over the life time of their pups?
I would say that most do not even think of this. Oh Sally got pregnant! Can't /won't emergency spay. Let me close my eyes, cross my fingers, and hope all goes well. Then let's fob off these pups to what-ever home I can find for them. And wash my hands of any responsibility! |
Darlin'

, if I could always post the right thing, at the right time, on the right day, to the right person...I'd be thrilled

. But, I'm just one lowly human being who does what she can, when she can. I do want to *assure* you, in no uncertain terms, that this is not about any particular thread. The idea/need for this thread started to brew about 3 weeks ago, when some escalated complaints came in. This is ongoing stuff, nuttin' new.
I only can imagine what it's like for you and other breeders to watch what goes on in here. Believe me,
I get it in as far as my imagination can take me (not being a breeder). Us older members know exactly who we've lost in terms of excellent breeders here who used to give advice. One by one, they gave up bc it's so utterly draining for them to help in here. I don't think it's ever said enough how grateful all of us are that some breeders are STILL willing to help in here. So let it be clear: we ARE GRATEFUL

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Not for a moment am I asking that you stop advocating for spays, or that you alter your opinion as to what is best in any situation. Not in the least. Your opinion is valid and needed desperately, as an experienced breeder. What I'm saying is that there are too many threads here where people are being pummeled by some members, rather than helped. Here's a better way of saying it: what I'm seeing is that you might go in and offer this very helpful and calm support - even if/when you're saying 'spay' or whatnot; then, some other folks might come in and all they offer is to pummel the OP - which then totally invalidates the support you gave bc the OP feels attacked, humiliated, embarrassed, defensive, and angry...not exactly a frame of mind conducive to learning or receiving advice. And *boom*, we've lost our opportunity to help the person and the dog, and to teach long term.
That's what this is about

. People who truly want to help a situation and who are able to do so calmly and respectfully, should post in such threads. Those are pi$$ed off and offended by the OP's situation --> you should not be on these threads bc you WILL HURT the outcome.