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SoCalyorkiLvr · 02-02-2006, 09:17 PM

Cindy~

Please know that I share and understand your passion about the poor animals that are rescued each year and those that are abused and not rescued, those sitting in shelters.

I do not question your sense of social responsibility and would politely ask that you not question mine.

I spend countless hours at my local Humane Society and I donate time and money to anti puppymill and animal rights associations. I am a strong animal rights activist and have devoted many hours of pro bono legal work fighting for the rights of abused animals of all kinds. My 18 year old daughter is a vegan and won't even wear shoes with leather in them because she is so concerned about the treatment of ALL animals in our society. She got this way because of growing up being taught about the plight of animals in our country.

Are you as concerned about the treatment of farm animals (pigs who never see the light of day for example) or other animnals that we eat that are "farmed" everyday as you are about the dogs in our society? There is a lot of animal mistreatment and you would never question my sense of social responsibility if you knew me and my work in this regard.

I do not feel that the issue of dog over population gives us the right to hide the truth and leave out important risks when discussing the health of our beloved furbabies. I also do not feel that we should outlaw ALL breeding until the problem is under control. I think we have to exercise common sense and good judgment and educate people with the truth and not with social pressure and falsehoods.

There are many ways to combat pet over population but routine neutering w/o considering the risks and the needs of the individual dog is just wrong imo. The fact is that many people in our society do not value the health and lives of our dogs even 50% as much as they value human life. I am not saying that my dogs' health is as important as my family's but it comes very close. This is not the case with the average American citizen, the average vet or the top veterinary schools. Therefore, their evaluation of the risk vs benefit will naturally be different from mine and from anyone who cares as strongly as I do about my pets.

I place the risks on a higher value scale than they do. This is not wrong and I will not apologize or be made to feel guilty if I have helped educate the members here about the fact that there are two sides to the story and they can make the best decisions when they have all of the facts, not just the politically correct ones.

The fact and has always been that I am not opposed to neutering...I am opposed to vets and others who lie, misrepresent, and tell half truths about the risks and side effect of neutering in the name of their pocketbooks and/or the pet over population problem.

02-02-2006, 09:17 PM	#77
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Cindy~ Please know that I share and understand your passion about the poor animals that are rescued each year and those that are abused and not rescued, those sitting in shelters. I do not question your sense of social responsibility and would politely ask that you not question mine. I spend countless hours at my local Humane Society and I donate time and money to anti puppymill and animal rights associations. I am a strong animal rights activist and have devoted many hours of pro bono legal work fighting for the rights of abused animals of all kinds. My 18 year old daughter is a vegan and won't even wear shoes with leather in them because she is so concerned about the treatment of ALL animals in our society. She got this way because of growing up being taught about the plight of animals in our country. Are you as concerned about the treatment of farm animals (pigs who never see the light of day for example) or other animnals that we eat that are "farmed" everyday as you are about the dogs in our society? There is a lot of animal mistreatment and you would never question my sense of social responsibility if you knew me and my work in this regard. I do not feel that the issue of dog over population gives us the right to hide the truth and leave out important risks when discussing the health of our beloved furbabies. I also do not feel that we should outlaw ALL breeding until the problem is under control. I think we have to exercise common sense and good judgment and educate people with the truth and not with social pressure and falsehoods. There are many ways to combat pet over population but routine neutering w/o considering the risks and the needs of the individual dog is just wrong imo. The fact is that many people in our society do not value the health and lives of our dogs even 50% as much as they value human life. I am not saying that my dogs' health is as important as my family's but it comes very close. This is not the case with the average American citizen, the average vet or the top veterinary schools. Therefore, their evaluation of the risk vs benefit will naturally be different from mine and from anyone who cares as strongly as I do about my pets. I place the risks on a higher value scale than they do. This is not wrong and I will not apologize or be made to feel guilty if I have helped educate the members here about the fact that there are two sides to the story and they can make the best decisions when they have all of the facts, not just the politically correct ones. The fact and has always been that I am not opposed to neutering...I am opposed to vets and others who lie, misrepresent, and tell half truths about the risks and side effect of neutering in the name of their pocketbooks and/or the pet over population problem.