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Old 09-22-2012, 02:43 PM   #30
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100% agree with you Ann!
Congratulations OP for the new litter and on not amputating their tails ♥

The tail consists of 6-23 vertebra enclosed in muscles, 4-7 pairs of nerves and supporting tendons and cartilage. Some breeds have a small portion of the tail removed whilst others such as the Rottweiler, Boxer or Doberman may be left with 1-2 vertebrae. This procedure involves the cutting through of skin, muscle, bones and cartilage and all without any form of pain relief
Ref: Dog Tail Docking: Issues and Health Implications of Docking, whether on a Boxer or a Puppy

Tail "docking", ear "cropping" and "dew claw removal" are all amputations of body parts and I hope we as a country can get these practices outlawed.
I don't buy the "might injure it" argument.
They might injure their paws, should they be removed? They might injure their claws, should we remove them? Or their nose, or... or .. you get the picture

As someone who has had four dogs (two dearly departed rip babies ♥), with full tails and AprilLove being the only one without a tail, and with barely a nub at that I can tell you that it does affect their movement by amputating them. Also no injuries of the long tails in 16 years. AprilLove can not run like my two with full tails and walks differently too. I see it as a disadvantage having the parts of their body that they were born with amputated.

I am going to provide a few links at the end of my loooooong reply for some interesting reading on both sides of the issues of dew claw and tail removals (AMPUTATIONS)

About the dew claw removal. I never really knew that they were removed on purpose on my first two dogs, I just really thought they were born with them or without them, until a friend had their cats' claws removed, I really didn't get that they were being amputated. After reading and studying more on the issue, and living with Nappy who has his, I now understand they are an integral part of their function. Similar to our thumbs.

http://caninesports.com/DewClawExplanation.pdf

and a very interesting video for example:
Dew Claws Do Have a Purpose! - YouTube



Nappy can run unlike any of the other 4 dogs I have had, and I now understand it after viewing him in slow mo and watching and understanding how the dew claws are like our thumbs. He can turn on a dime, Rozi and April cannot. He has the smoothest, almost fox like runnig motion that any of my dogs ever had. It is because he utilizes his dew claws.

The comparison of the dew claw and canine foot to our hand and thumb makes total sense to me. I recently amputated part of my thumb and had surgery on it. (a procedure called the "Moberg Flap") The hand surgeon informed me that our thumbs are 80 % of our hand function... I learned this verrrry quickly, being unable to use the hand for almost three months after the repair.
Anyway, my point in all this is that if in fact our dogs dew claws are even close to being 80% of their foot/paw function, then why on earth do we remove them? Food for thought I hope.

Nappy has never had an issue with his, I clip them when I clip the other ones. Removing a body part because "it might get injured" is a very very weak excuse for amputation, imho. If that were the case, If I would have had my thumb removed when I was 3 to 5 days old, I would never have injured it!!!

HEre are the links I mentioned before, just some other viewpoints on both sides and some referenced studies, on these issues.

Kandu's Breeding Philosophy

Cropping and Docking: A Discussion of the Controversy and the Role of Law in Preventing Unnecessary Cosmetic Surgery on Dogs

http://caninesports.com/DewClawExplanation.pdf

Dog Tail Docking: Issues and Health Implications of Docking, whether on a Boxer or a Puppy

- WSAVA Tail Docking Position Statement
I love this response Thank you AprilLove.

It makes a lot of sense to me... Couver had his dew claws removed and tail docked and he walks a lot differently than Khloe. He is not as agile and cannot turn sharply when running.
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