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YorkieRose · 01-28-2006, 08:43 AM

Irene...I think the Biewer will get a great deal of support as a new breed. It will take time, but with dedicated breeders as we have here on YT, I think it is certainly possible.

I can talk about things I have seen..not much on talking about things I have heard..that can mislead people. As to "non-standard" color puppies, they have been around the Yorkie world forever. I have had the priviledge of being friends with some well respected breeders. I have never missed the opportunity to learn all possible from them.

About 20 yrs ago a show breeder friend of mine went to PA for stud service, two pups resulted. Let me say my friend had no other dogs but Yorkies, no poodles or Maltese in the stud owners home or my friends. The bitch was bred to a well-known champion. The bitch was of the same bloodline, having been bought from the PA breeder.
When the litter of 2 were born..(I lived down the street) I saw them, they were very white.. black on the saddle, but the legs, tips of tails, neck and shoulders were white. Faces were gold and white..and up into the head area.

At 12 weeks my friend invited another club member to see them. She was told the general thinking in this area was to "put down" any pups of non-standard color at birth to avoid these problems. My friend was upset as these pups were normal in health. They were taken to a fun match. There was much discussion and most came to the conclusion the color genes had diluted too much...they should be placed and not bred..which was done. Up until this litter I have seen Yorkie color dilute very light as they mature, but never at birth.
They were small in size, tail docked of course, so the white tip was gone, tiny ears and fiesty Yorkie temperment..infact I groomed them for a few years. Coats were very silky and they had lovely green eye flash.
I do not have photo's of these pups..but they certainly had as much white as many Biewers and Parti's I see photo's of now.
If this occured today I am sure my friend would have requested a DNA test.

To say these pups were not purebred is to say these fine show breeders are careless with stud services or their pedigrees are not accquire..or these pups were a mutation.

01-28-2006, 08:43 AM	#60
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Irene...I think the Biewer will get a great deal of support as a new breed. It will take time, but with dedicated breeders as we have here on YT, I think it is certainly possible. I can talk about things I have seen..not much on talking about things I have heard..that can mislead people. As to "non-standard" color puppies, they have been around the Yorkie world forever. I have had the priviledge of being friends with some well respected breeders. I have never missed the opportunity to learn all possible from them. About 20 yrs ago a show breeder friend of mine went to PA for stud service, two pups resulted. Let me say my friend had no other dogs but Yorkies, no poodles or Maltese in the stud owners home or my friends. The bitch was bred to a well-known champion. The bitch was of the same bloodline, having been bought from the PA breeder. When the litter of 2 were born..(I lived down the street) I saw them, they were very white.. black on the saddle, but the legs, tips of tails, neck and shoulders were white. Faces were gold and white..and up into the head area. At 12 weeks my friend invited another club member to see them. She was told the general thinking in this area was to "put down" any pups of non-standard color at birth to avoid these problems. My friend was upset as these pups were normal in health. They were taken to a fun match. There was much discussion and most came to the conclusion the color genes had diluted too much...they should be placed and not bred..which was done. Up until this litter I have seen Yorkie color dilute very light as they mature, but never at birth. They were small in size, tail docked of course, so the white tip was gone, tiny ears and fiesty Yorkie temperment..infact I groomed them for a few years. Coats were very silky and they had lovely green eye flash. I do not have photo's of these pups..but they certainly had as much white as many Biewers and Parti's I see photo's of now. If this occured today I am sure my friend would have requested a DNA test. To say these pups were not purebred is to say these fine show breeders are careless with stud services or their pedigrees are not accquire..or these pups were a mutation. Last edited by YorkieRose; 01-28-2006 at 08:47 AM.