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Old 07-30-2012, 09:11 AM   #41
PrincessSophie1
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom View Post
Please allow me to step in and clarify a few things for you. First though, I want to welcome you to YorkieTalk . I edited your post so that I could focus my reply on things that need clarification.

As far as the YT FAQs you mentioned, let me clarify that it does *not* state that members must "post a response which helps the person, otherwise do not post". A member's response could be helpful whether or not they agree with your actions - all members are welcome to post on any thread, whether or not they agree with your actions. If we asked people to only post if "helpful"...where would that leave room for discussion, debate, opinions, and a real "forum" - which is what YT is, by definition. We can't define what is "helpful" or not; what is "not helpful" today, may be incredibly helpful down the line (to both the original poster and/or to anyone reading).

I suppose in life that there are indeed some folks who have superiority complexes. Sure, I've seen it here at YT - there is no section immune to this occasional experience. I also see it in real life. I don't really see it in your thread; I see people sharing their opinions and experiences. What if some people here are viewing you as having a superiority complex? Does that make it true? My point is, if you think any member is acting 'superior' - oh well; to use your words: move on.

Lastly, you mentioned in a few of your posts that you were not given the kind of support you specifically wanted. Again, we don't ask that members offer support according to the poster's request. Also, PLEASE REMEMBER - that YT is a dog forum, and more specifically, a YORKIE forum. Therefore, members here will also give their opinions in support of the YORKIE, and the situation the yorkie may be in. You will also see lots of passion regarding breeding beliefs - and the spectrum of those beliefs is allowed here.



No member can dictate who may and may not reply, and under what circumstances they may reply. On that note, we don't dictate what is relevant or not; we may intervene if a thread is going completely off topic. However, the replies in this thread are definitely relevant.

Btw, members cannot delete their posts; what is said here is permanent unless there is a need for a Mod or Admin to intervene.



Calling YT members vultures isn't (to use your words) gentle or supportive. You're asking people to behave a certain way (as defined by you), but then not exactly walking the walk yourself. I mention this only because I'm a firm believer in that you can't have it both ways.



I'd mention here that it may be wise to keep your pups longer, and spay/neuter them before they leave your care. Some would say that breeding chocolates may result in devastating health consequences, as I'm sure you're already aware of.

In conclusion, I hope you have the passion to stick around YT - despite the fact that opinions differ, and sometimes things get heated. Like you, we all love our dogs SO very much - and deep abiding love will often illicit a lot of passion...not really a bad thing, ya know? We all can learn and better ourselves from passionate interactions - even if/when those interactions sting a little (I've been stung plenty, btw, and I know it can hurt...but don't let your emotions/reactions get the best of who you really are ).
Thank you, Wylie's Mom for your clarification on what this forum allows. I do appreciate you taking the time to edit several posts by me and addressing them specifically. However, I don't believe that by doing that addresses the countless opinions and facts given that were from other forum members that were not helpful to me and I had made that known more than once that the information was NOT what I have been asking for in regards to my Yorkie.

The definition of helpful is "giving or ready to give help", synonymous with beneficial. I recognized everyone who was helpful to my OP. If this is a forum who declares that anyone has the right to post what they feel is important, then I also have that same right. I was asking for HELP, not selective off topic criticism nor passionate opinions opposite of my questions. Helpful criticism that is relevant to my question(s) were very welcomed, but intellectual Yorkie scholars who (because that is their right and passion to do so) felt compelled to give and continue to give their facts and opinions that were, to put it mildly, "less than helpful". I am not the only one that these forum members have done this to, which is why I had made that inclusion in my OP about being somewhat reserved to starting a new thread (paraphrased). These other members did to me what they have done to many others and from what I've gathered is that YT has been gaining a less than stellar reputation on its treatment of other members that may not be so schooled, such as those who have spent years and years and thousands and thousands of dollars that they have sacrificed to making the breed better....They started "somewhere".

I really do appreciate you being somewhat neutral on this thread, but if I'm the underdog here and my posts were the easy ones to separate from its context to "help" others down the road, then so be it.

Item number one of "New Users Please Read & YorkieTalk Guidelines", located in FAQS states:
"1. Please be civil and do not personally attack anyone or their opinions. If you disagree with their approach or method, feel free to reply, but do it in a civil way. Or you can choose to ignore their post altogether."

You stated above that no one can dictate who replies and who doesn't, then why does it state "you can choose to ignore their post altogether"? That tells me that the person reading posts can dictate their own choice to not reply. I do realize that this applies to me as well. My reason for responding was to continually insist the ongoing nature of my OP and to try to deter those members who felt so strongly a need to reply and cause my OP to become littered with answers/opinions/passionate beliefs/drama that did not help me (or anyone else that may have the same or similar question).

If the worst thing I did here was to symbolically portray other members "as vultures" regarding how they give their help/answers/opinions/passionate beliefs towards my OP, then I am at fault and truly ask for forgiveness. However, it seems a bit inequitable to use the one thing that I said to portray their behavior in how their answers were given/delivery of content and not address ALL of those members whose answers did not apply or were not relevant or helpful to my OP.

Wylie's Mom, I do sincerely thank you for all the time you spent to help moderate this thread.
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