[yorkietalkjilly]

But for a moment consider if you were the one wearing the shock collar & knew that anything you did could anytime get you beeped & shocked - it would still probably hurt & shock you - frazzle your nerves. I know it would me. It would Britster. It would tjdmom & Gemy. The point being - hurting & shocking affects all people the same - even though we are all very different, as you say - yet people still ALL don't like it. Dogs are like that - different in many ways but they ALL don't like being shocked. Remember how your dog acted the first shock? He did not like it.

You said every owner & dog are different. No, not that different when it comes to being shocked - no person, no animal likes it. It is intimidating & nerve-racking over time & can be cruel for an animal to have to live like that - never knowing for sure when the beep/shock is coming. Why subject your dog to that intimidation form of training when other forms of training are every bit as effective, are tons of fun for you & your dog & provide a great bond for you & your dog. I promise you one of the ways I helped rehabilitate my almost feral little Tibbe when I got him at 9 mos. of age was through loving positive-reinforcement behavior modification training. Then, a bit later once he was confident & strong, we did some Nothing In Life Is Free training whenever he would start to ignore certain things he knew not to do - such as try to rush out the front door or keep barking once told to quiet. He just loves the training & he's an over-achiever - wants to "get it" ASAP & the moment you start to say a command, he's started doing it - happy as can be, mouth wide open, panting like dogs do when they say they are "laughing". You know how they kind of short-pant when they are about to get to do something they really want to do? That's how Tibbe is when I tell him we are going to train or I give him a command. He LOVES it. I'll bet your guy would, too & you would not have to put him through beeping & shocking. To tell you the truth, I would much rather see "tsskk"ing or an alpha roll or two than shocking - and so would any dog. Why don't you just try some of the NILIF training & see how rewarding it is for both of you? You'll be pleasantly surprised - I promise.