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Old 04-20-2012, 03:13 PM   #33
Nancy1999
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This is her first email to me:

Stephanie,

Just so you know, David is my son, He had purchased Jesse & Cali from me for family Pets, he owns Jesse & Cali. I will tell you they were both born in my home, and from healthy parents and healthy grandparents etc. I know the linage well. The Yorkies are pets first, but are allowed to breed on occasion. I never breed my females every cycle and neither will David. So Cali was skipped about two months ago. So she will not be in heat again for 6 months. Then it takes 63 days for dropping the litter. Then it takes 8 to 12 weeks for them to be ready.
My son David has talked with his Vet and showed him all the paper work. Dr Moony is aware of the good linage & history of healthy pups for years. He seems to think that this was caused by something she ate & or a birth defect or both. He also explained a birth defect can happen to the smallest of litter, mostly when they was the first to drop from the litter. He also claims this can happen to anyone that breeds over time, even though they have had healthy pups. It may never occur again. Even though vets suspect Liver shunt because of condition, he said a Liver shunt is not conclusive. It was obvious that Macie had Kidney Stones. All her litter mates are fine. The Vet assured David that a birth defect will happen to any breeder that breeds long enough... He is confident that Jesse & Cali are fine to breed. I am just heart broken that this happened to Macie, our last puppy we sold.
Your puppy will be replaced. You will only be responsible for the shipping of puppy as contract states.

Option #1 - Ella - Ella is Macie's litter mate - so she is the age of Macie.. She just got fixed on Tuesday - and Dr Moony ran a full blood panel on her, so she has been tested. - Ella weighs 2.5 pounds - Ella & her name is registered, but AKC allows for new owners to change name. I am sure they charge something for the change of name, but I have never changed one myself and this is a recent option that they made available.

Option #2 - Wait for David's Jesse & Cali next litter - which is still approx 8 months away before the dropping the litter. - Last litter was 3 girls & 2 boys.

Option #3 - Maryann's Mick & Esme - Which is due to drop drop puppies the later part of June. - I do not know a lot about Maryann's Esme - Jesse sired a litter with her that was adorable 3 girls & 2 boys. I only had contact with Becky Howard that purchased David's pick of the litter Little Clio, she had purchased two other yorkies Kyra & Cali (another Cali... seems to be a popular name).. from me in the past. When grown Becky's Clio finally reached 4 pound she is a lover girl from what Becky says, where Cali is more mischievous. Mick & Esme has had a litter together before. I think 1 girl & 3 3oys.

This is a list of first available puppies. I may also have another available from Patti, but I still have to check on that status, I am actually waiting to hear from Patti: I have retired from breeding due to age & health issues. However, I have pick of a few litters from other people. You will have a few months left on Macie's contract, that will be forwarded to your choice of an available puppy. I will have a panel run on any puppy available that you choose, like Ella just had. I would like to state, that I am requesting you to feed the Hill's Science Diet Small bites (dry pebbles) for toy breed for the remainder of the contract that is left.

Another thing is on new litters upcoming you can not guarantee size etc. - We will not know until the drop if they are male or female. Sometimes litters occasionally drop all boys or all girls. If on the occasion of an all boy litter we would have to wait until the next available litter.

Let me know which you would like: I have been trying to get your options to you as soon as possible. Because of our commitment next week where I will not be available.




This is her second email when I told her I was scared and wanted a refund:

Stephanie,

Sorry I do not do refunds. Only replacement of a puppy. That is explain in the contract. I do not replace puppies because they were to small. A person can not guarantee a size of a puppy.

Just because something happens to one does not mean, that any others are that way or will be that way. All my puppies are with AKC and can be tracked and verified that they are healthy. Except for Macie. I believe any Vet would tell you the same as Dr Moony told David. So you can not be scared of that, because that would stop you from buying from any breeder, because this could happen to anyone.. Macie is the first offspring to ever be afflicted.

The only time after talking with other breeders, that I purchased a puppy back was when a women found out she was dying with cancer and couldn't she was not going to be able to care for him. By standards of other breeders, I did a buy back on him for 1/2 the purchased price.
I actually wish I knew when Macie first got sick so our Vets could have been monitoring this from day one. Then I could have had a choice to come and get her before she was put down and do try more to do more help her.

So exactly what are wanting me to do?
You have to pay shipping? I would run from this person. I wish people would stop giving breeders like this money. She takes no responsibility. She says things like "The Yorkies are pets first, but are allowed to breed on occasion". What???? No one should breed their pets! I don't care what her contract says, you can still sue her. I'm not sure who you breeder is, but many states have puppy lemon laws that protect the consumer no matter what the contract says. For example read Oklahoma's new lemon puppy law. Oklahoma Puppy Lemon Law | eHow.com

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Returns and Refunds
Oklahoma's regulations provide for reimbursement of the puppy's purchase price in some circumstances, but don't provide for any reimbursement for veterinary costs as of early 2011. The buyer is only entitled to a refund of the purchase price if he returns a puppy that was unfit for sale or provides proof that it died. The regulations define a pet as unfit for sale if a veterinarian states in writing, within 10 days after the sale, that it has an undisclosed health problem or disease that existed at the time of sale. It's also unfit for sale if a vet states within a year that it's not the breed type specified in the invoice, or that it's ill or died of an undisclosed hereditary or congenital defect.
With her saying "I do not replace puppies because they were to small. A person can not guarantee a size of a puppy", she mixes truth with fiction, sure no breeder can gaurantee the size of a puppy, but you are NOT returning a pup because it was too small. I would not give this person one more cent.
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