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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Lambert and Revival vet supply....I personally would not buy vaccines from a feed store! You need to have the health records to record your vaccinations....you buy them at the same time you buy your vaccines. I use Pro-Gard 5...10 years, never had a problem, knock on wood....you stick the label from the bottle onto the record....Be advised, a lot of vets will insist the owners of the new puppies re-vaccinate the babies....I always tell my buyers to talk with their vet of choice and see if they will accept the vaccinations I have given....if not, rather than risk OVER VACCINATING the baby, they need to reconsider the vet choice. I always interview my new owners vets also, just to re-inforce that I am an RN who is very well aware of temperature ranges for vaccines, and I know how to give injections. I sign my health certs with my professional signature. In 10 years, I have only had one vet not work with the new owner, and new owner did not listen to my advise. He re-vaccinated the puppy, gave the baby Lepto. injection, the baby had an anaphylactic reaction, died on the way home from the vet....and then the owner wanted me to refund her money!

Very good practice...

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I'm not a breeder.

Over/early vaccinating is horrid, in fact I know a few very reputable breeders who refuse to vaccinate their "stock" period and only vaccinate the pups at their vets before going to their forever homes because it is legal required.

Please get a vet that will give you a breeder discount, come to your home if possible, and follow the Dr. Dodd protocol (as the reputable breeders here follow, swear by, recommend and caution buyers about finding vets who agree).

I think the Rabies vaccine is the only one required by law in the USA.

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Rabies in CA cannot be given to individuals for self administration to pets strange as it is the only required vaccine thus I think that's very telling.

Rabies is required and can only be given by a vet in the USA because of it's zoonotic properties (infectious to humans). Giving the Rabies vaccine is no different than giving other vaccines, but care must be taken to not inject oneself or get stuck by the needle, and proper disposal/destruction of the needle, syringe, and vaccine container must be done as these also are a route of infection.

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Feed store vaccines are usual multi vaccines and wholesale bulk-so they aren't always name brand and or specialty singles most vets recommend for small dogs-like Yorkies.

There are no 'specialty' singles for small dogs. All vaccines made for dogs are strong enough to vaccinate a dog weighing up to 100 pounds. This is where the problem of 'overvaccinate' originates, and why Dr Dodds recommends only one vaccine per vet visit and one month between vaccines for dogs.

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Let the vet do this research and stay current on what's recalled no longer reccomended and what has been found to be problematic-vet's get drug company updates, current research articles etc that breeders and others would have to regularly seek out.

Good breeders work closely with their own vets. My vet has a 'Breeder call List' to inform those who breed of any changes in practices, meds and/or recalls.

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I, as a buyer have more confidence in a breeder who leaves, dew claw removal, tail docking and vaccinating to their vet in the proper setting...not a DIY task to save $. <--just MHO.

Quite a few breeders are trained by their vets to perform these procedures. These are minor procedures compared to whelping the pups at home.... Vets offices have many dogs and cats coming in on a daily basis, many of which are sick. To bring unvaccinated puppies into this environment is always a risk, as viruses are airborne and can infect even if the vet's office is clean and immaculate. Even when the puppies are carried in, there is still a risk that the breeder could bring home something infectious on their clothes or shoes. Not only do they save money doing this.... they may also be saving the lives of their puppies.

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I too am a medical professional and know my place while speaking to the surgeons that I work with daily. Again, I think you are overstepping your profession as a nurse and mixing breeding, nursing and vet medicine into one lump.

IMHO, it is a big lump.

All human medicine and more is tested on Horseshoecrab blood before it ever goes into production.

Horseshoe Crabs - The Useful Horseshoe Crab

The Veterinary Profession is always looking to human medicine/procedures to find ways to better treat our pets.

The Vet ER I worked at 20 years ago had all kinds of equipment donated from local hospitals, from infant incubators for small critical patients, to EKG machines and Pulse Oximeters, Endoscopes, IV supplies and pumps, etc., which now is fairly commonplace (or should be) at many vet practices/clinics.

Stem Cell therapy is becoming an available treatment for our pets also. Funny though as it was first tested on animals before being used in human medicine, and now it's coming back to be utilized in the Vet Med field.

9/11 Search and Rescue Dog Receives Stem Cell Therapy at Va. Clinic

Burke Vet Performs Stem Cell Therapy on Dogs with Hip, Knee Problems - Burke, VA Patch


To 'draw a line' between human and animal medicine would be severely limiting to both fields.

Also, when I worked at the human hospital, I remember hearing countless stories of nurses intervening in patients treatment, usually involved an error in medication or amounts in the charts.... takes a sharp nurse to catch and verify those kinds of errors.