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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

My opinion:

this brings back to mind about Mike Tyson and the case of the young woman who accused him of rape. All that I remember of this particular case is that she went up to his room, removed an personal item...to me, what did she think was going to happen next? I certainly, DO NOT excuse what happened, but at what point is the woman responsible for any of the situation?

Please do not get me wrong, when a woman says "no", it should mean no. If a woman pushes the limit then she should also be accountable. I do not understand how a sober, conscious, capable person could openly go into a situation and then feel that they were treated wrongly.

No, a man should stop immediately when a woman says no, however if a woman is giving mixed signals--be it that they get themselves into a situation, do not say no, or just want to play by their own rules, how much of the responsibilty should the woman bear for the situation?

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