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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 You missed my point, I'm certainly not saying any women should want a man who's "in charge", I can't stand that type of man, but it is a message men learn. I've heard women say they wouldn't date a man if he "asked" for a kiss, that that is such a "turn off". Women have to take some of the responsibility for what happens. We can't legislate morality, these things are wrong, but they aren't necessarily illegal. Many women are brought up to be people pleasers, and little girls are even brought up to be seductive, we need to teach our young women that it's okay to say no, and they have value beyond sex.
In the case you are talking about where the person is underage that is statutory rape and apparently incest, both serious crimes that should be reported. In the other cases you mentioned, did the women protest, did they say “no”? Or were they willing, but just didn’t want to make trouble, and things got a little out of hand? If you don’t protest in any way, I don’t see how it’s a crime, except where as Chachi mentioned of someone not mentally capable of giving consent, and those cases where the victim is underage.
By the way, a man's profession, doesn't give us much information on whether we can trust him, so just because someone is in the medical profession or even the clergy, we have to use our God given woman's intuition, about their true character. |
Sorry, maybe I did miss the point.
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yes I can say with everything that I believe in that all three of the women said
NO and tried to fight them off ! I am very close with these women... my best friend and my sister and my neighbor who I've known for 25 yrs.
There is no question in my mind. I grew up with the two men (brothers) who raped my best friend and my sister. One of them was one of the men who tried to force himself on me.